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plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« on: February 27, 2013, 06:50:35 PM »
Millionaire space tourist Dennis Tito's plan to send two astronauts on a 501-day flight that zooms past Mars and swings back to Earth would set plenty of precedents on the final frontier — but the most intriguing precedent might have to do with the astronauts that are to be sent: one man and one woman, preferably a married couple beyond childbearing years. We're talking about sex in space, folks.

And if that's not intriguing enough, consider this: There are already a couple of candidates for the job.

We'll certainly throw our hat in the ring," said Taber MacCallum, who's a member of the development team for the 2018 mission that Tito has in mind.


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MacCallum and his wife, Jane Poynter, were crew members together in Biosphere 2, the controversial two-year-long experiment in long-term environmental containment. They went on to become co-founders of Paragon Space Development Corp., a company specializing in life-support systems for spacecraft. Their expertise in life support is why they're involved in Tito's "Mission for America," which was officially unveiled on Wednesday at the National Press Club in Washington. But it just so happens that they also fit the profile for the trip: Poynter is about 50, and MacCallum will turn 49 on July 20, the anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing.

The couple won't be the only candidates in the running. "When we tell people we're proposing to send a man and a woman on a mission to Mars, as a married couple, people line up. ... That chord gets struck over and over again," MacCallum said.

MacCallum explained that Tito wants the crew on humanity's first trip to Mars to be representative of humanity, and because the current concept for the trip calls for two spacefliers, that means a man and a woman. A married couple would be ideal, MacCallum said, because of the "whole issue of companionship." MacCallum didn't refer specifically to sex, but that would presumably be part of the companionship package.

"When you're out that far, and the Earth is a tiny, blue pinpoint, you're going to need someone you can hug," Tito told Space.com. During Wednesday's briefing, Tito told reporters that he envisioned Dr. Phil giving the couple "marital advice" during the trip.

In addition to their experience with life-support systems (and with each other), MacCallum and Poynter can draw upon their experience with life in isolation during the Biosphere 2 experiment in Arizona, which lasted from 1991 to 1993. The isolation inside a two-room spacecraft for 501 days will be even deeper. Even though the Biosphere 2 crew was separated from the outside world, "we could walk out at any time," MacCallum pointed out.

That's not the only challenge: Even with radiation shielding in place, the round trip to Mars is likely to involve exposure levels higher than NASA's limits, MacCallum said. (That's why the astronauts should be beyond their childbearing years and willing to accept an increased risk of cancer.)

Then there's the exposure to the health effects of long-term weightlessness, including bone loss and muscle loss. The astronauts who fly past Mars will surpass Soviet cosmonaut Valery Polyakov's 437-day record for continuous time in microgravity, set in 1994-1995 aboard the much roomier Mir space station.

"We're definitely pushing boundaries," MacCallum said. "It's definitely going to be hard and challenging. But we can rely on elegance and simplicity."

When, where and how?
The details of the mission plan have come to light just in the past few days, but MacCallum said that Tito has been mulling over the idea for years. Tito started out as an engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, helping to design trajectories for the Mariner missions to Mars in the 1970s. Then he put his math genius to work in the investment world, building California-based Wilshire Associates into a multibillion-dollar powerhouse. In 2001, he spent around $20 million of his fortune for a seat on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft traveling to and from to the International Space Station.

After his eight-day space tour, Tito got back to business. But he also started working out a trajectory that could send a spaceship directly from Earth to Mars for a fly-by within 100 miles (160 kilometers) of the Red Planet's surface, and then back to the home planet 501 days after launch. Once the spaceship was on its way, only minor course corrections would be needed. There'd be no need for undocking or redocking ... no landing ...


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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 07:30:13 PM »
The most expensive divorce in human history waiting to happen.
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Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 07:37:41 PM »
The idea of that type of freedom from the rest of the world is actually quite appealing for some couples. Though, yes, it's hard to predict what long term isolation can do to the mind. Two years with absolutely no other human contact is a long time.

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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 07:47:25 PM »
Won't be done.  There's no room in a space ship for a walk-in closet and jetted tub.  Not being sexist, but that seems to be 2 requirements of the females who are looking for a house on the home-buying shows.
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 11:30:40 PM »
Won't be done.  There's no room in a space ship for a walk-in closet and jetted tub.  Not being sexist, but that seems to be 2 requirements of the females who are looking for a house on the home-buying shows.

  In my case, there would need to be adequate room for food storage. :cbc: Weebles need snacks!
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 11:35:13 PM »
Bought some as a gift a couple years ago. It's freeze dried. Didn't think of myself until after the fact, so haven't tried it, but hear it's good.

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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 01:03:23 AM »
Should be interesting to hear more. The press conference is tomorrow.
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 01:10:23 AM »
The most expensive divorce in human history waiting to happen.

  The husband had better take out the trash when the Mrs. tells him to!   :rollingpin:
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 02:18:32 AM »
what about the sekks?

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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 04:31:54 AM »
The sekks should be nice.
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 06:40:57 AM »
I'd like to hear it addressed at the press conference why they're not also considering well-established gay couples, which was one of my first thoughts when I read about this.
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 10:13:42 AM »
Sounds like fun.  Also like pie-in-the-sky.

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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 06:59:00 PM »
Sounds like fun.  Also like gettin' some pie-in-the-sky.
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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2013, 05:51:10 PM »
501 days of togetherness in a small spaceship? :zombiefuck:

My bet is that only one comes back alive.


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Re: plans to send woman and man to Mars and back
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2013, 05:53:45 PM »
"Honest, your honor, she just opened the door and walked out."