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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2012, 01:29:54 PM »
also one of their twitter accounts has been hacked

I think it's called @Dear_Shirley or @DearShirley iirc

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2012, 01:40:04 PM »
I'll just leave this here.

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2012, 02:44:50 PM »
Saw that earlier. :thumbup:

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #78 on: December 17, 2012, 03:48:40 PM »
I would like to know when I can listen to the radio again without hearing updates every commercial break.  Big story and a tragedy for certain but is this much coverage helpful?
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #79 on: December 17, 2012, 03:49:29 PM »
I would like to know when I can listen to the radio again without hearing updates every commercial break.  Big story and a tragedy for certain but is this much coverage helpful?

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #80 on: December 17, 2012, 04:17:09 PM »
WBC is the perfect example of what Christianity (and what it stands for) is NOT about. They're awful on so many levels. I feel sick to my stomach that they are even contemplating protesting the funerals.

Anonymous on the other hand, I have to say it kind of made me laugh in that they're like a bully who is pushing another bully back into the corner. They stood up for the little guy, but I don't think what they did was right either.

Apparently iNewtown only has ONE funeral director. I feel really bad for him/her because this will take a huge emotional toll on that person.

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2012, 08:44:57 PM »


Thought this was interesting.
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2012, 12:10:30 AM »
I would like to know when I can listen to the radio again without hearing updates every commercial break.  Big story and a tragedy for certain but is this much coverage helpful?

Be on the lookout for the next big piece of drama. When it happens, you can safely tune to your favourite radio station again and listen to endless drivel about that new drama instead. :zoinks:
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2012, 12:11:20 AM »


Thought this was interesting.

The forensic psychiatrist is absolutely right, basically he said in all that the media shouldn't be sensationalizing these events. By doing so they glorify these people as anti-hero figures to inspire others who are disturbed to do the same in the future; seeing how much attention they'll get and be remembered for it.

I mean think about the psychology behind the average shooter (I would imagine): You want vengeance due to decades of alienation, you want to be remembered and strike fear into and/or kill those who wronged you. You don't consider the more logical/moral options nor have coping mechanism to inhibit impulsive thoughts spurred on by negative experiences. You see the coverage on the news or read about past incidents of what people that felt like you did and be inspired by it. You realize that not only it satisfies your rage to mass-murder people, but you will be remembered in history for it too. And what's this? If you have an ideology or manifesto you want to spread, hey that's a bonus in doing such a heinous act. So much obsessive media coverage, the ultimate limelight and you have nothing to loose...

Frankly, I don't think these shooters are entirely insane or psychotic either as the act to shoot up a school is too per-meditated. It's more of failure of them developing impulsive control due to an actual illness or abuse. I'm sure people will disagree, but it's all too easy to consider someone insane without weighing up more specific factors first.
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #84 on: December 18, 2012, 12:25:32 AM »
^Agreed. Insanity is very frequently a copout.
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2012, 12:46:55 AM »
What exactly is insane anyway.

It's just a term mainly used for legal or psychiatric decisions. But philosophically speaking, it's subjective to one's perspective.

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2012, 06:55:15 AM »
"Insane" is a legal psychiatric term referring to the inability to tell right from wrong due to mental defect.  Insanity defenses very very rarely work.  I believe (I'm sure someone will end up researching this and correcting me if I'm wrong) insanity defenses typically refer more to psychosis than to psychopathy/sociopathy.

"Psychotic" would refer to some type of disturbance in reality.  Hallucinating, delusional, etc.  I work with quite a few folks with psychosis.  They're quite rarely actually "insane."  Some, you'd never be able to tell they have hallucinations, or any type of reality disturbance, to talk to them.  In fact, my impression at this point is most people who have psychotic symptoms don't actually have largely psychotic thought processes.  Though, the most common psychotic symptoms are very low level (hearing small noises, seeing things out of the corners of one's eyes).

Psychopaths/sociopaths are, for a quick and dirty definition, people who for all intents and purposes "don't have souls."

I'd say that in order to do something as heinous as a mass killing, one would have to be pretty damn sick, but not necessarily "insane" as above.  Not necessarily psychotic, either.  Sociopathic?  Probably.  Though, what that says about people in the military who're able to do prolific amounts of killing... is a tangent, but something that does come to my mind.  In general, it's scary what human beings are not only able to do to one another, but in many cases, do relatively commonly to one another.
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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2012, 07:24:38 AM »
People without a conscience may not know right from wrong, but not all of them are considered "insane" by the law. Or even psychologically speaking (as far as I know).

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2012, 09:57:03 AM »
People without a conscience may not know right from wrong, but not all of them are considered "insane" by the law. Or even psychologically speaking (as far as I know).

This is essentially a boiled down synopsis of what she just said.  Insanity defenses require a "break", while sociopathy doesn't qualify

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Re: School shooting in Newtown, CT
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2012, 11:10:19 AM »
What do you mean a 'break' ?

As in, a sudden departure from their normal self, as opposed to a sociopath/psychopath in the truest classical sense, in their case 'fruitcake' being the baseline personality/cognitive type to begin with?
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