The best and the worst of people

['andersom']

What's scary is that the same people can be guilty of both

Nazis who could be incredibly sadistic or overlook the most awful crimes against humanity, can at the same time be kind, generous and sensitive people in another situation. Usually depending on the person involved. A lot of Nazis involved in the holocaust or related violence would have been good, decent family men who were liked by their community and would have done just what that teenage girl did on 7/7 - but then in a different environment, and more importantly when faced with a different type of person, they're capable of either taking part in or overlooking the second kind of behaviour.

That's what scared me the most of all the stories on WWII, I could have been on the bad side just as easy. Once you are forced through the threshold of decency there is no holding back.

Having lived in a place with a "Durchgangslager" history, knowing that concentration camp had been built by the Dutch, before the war, did not make my view on the good of people more optimistic.

Yet, almost every day, I also see things that are just kind, and good, without any reward as an incentive happening.

People do have both in them indeed.

[bodie]

I have heard people say that a holocaust like that wouldn't happen in our time?  Reason -  women!   A lot more women have political involvement, and equal rights.  There was no female voice in 1939.

I got to admit it has got me thinking.  Although often, women can be as brutal as men, it does strike a cord somewhere, the fact that they were absent.

There was a lot of testosterone flying round,  do you reckon it could make any difference?

['andersom']

I have heard people say that a holocaust like that wouldn't happen in our time?  Reason -  women!   A lot more women have political involvement, and equal rights.  There was no female voice in 1939.

I got to admit it has got me thinking.  Although often, women can be as brutal as men, it does strike a cord somewhere, the fact that they were absent.

There was a lot of testosterone flying round,  do you reckon it could make any difference?

Look at bullying, the difference between average boys and average girls is in the format. Read some polls amongst kids about what was worse, girl bullying was seen as the worst, both by girls as by boys.

[bodie]

I agree Hyke,  girls can be worse.  I also think men are much more inclined to shake hands after and let things be.

A lot of small children were rounded up and put to a firing squad in the holocaust and i can't help but think that maternal side present in women would have influenced that decision.  Had women been part of the authority.

It is just something i am pondering over.  We will never know what difference, if any, they could have made.

['andersom']

I agree Hyke,  girls can be worse.  I also think men are much more inclined to shake hands after and let things be.

A lot of small children were rounded up and put to a firing squad in the holocaust and i can't help but think that maternal side present in women would have influenced that decision.  Had women been part of the authority.

It is just something i am pondering over.  We will never know what difference, if any, they could have made.

Once someone has become a torturer, they will try to do it to perfection. A maternal insight could have made the torture even more extreme.

[bodie]

^  That is one horrid thought.  I just remembered Myra Hindley.

 

['andersom']

^  That is one horrid thought.  I just remembered Myra Hindley.

 

Just googled her. Not something to read as a bedtime story. 

[Parts]

Women can be just as evil and vile as men they just seem to hide it better.

[bodie]

I still find it hard to imagine a woman, possibly a mother could give an order to shoot a little kid.  To stand over and watch the proceedings.  I just KNOW i could never ever be a part of something like that,  no matter what it's creed/religion/parentage  -  i couldn't do that to any offspring - human, animal or even alien.

I would never harm anyone's children.  Even those of the enemy. 

[Adam]

Some women are evil towards their own children, nevermind the children of others. Look at women who let their fucked up partners rape their kids. Women who abuse their own children

['andersom']

Some women are evil towards their own children, nevermind the children of others. Look at women who let their fucked up partners rape their kids. Women who abuse their own children

There probably will be fathers looking away when mothers rape their kids too.


And, there are girls, letting themselves get raped by their fathers for years, in the hope to protect their siblings from the same fate.

The best, and the worst, it can be found so entwined.

[bodie]

 

['andersom']

Knew a woman, who for years had taken it from her stepdad, to save her younger sisters from that fate. Was an extra blow in her face when she found out he never kept the bargain.

[Jesse]

I can say that I have delt with some real fuck alls in life. how do I deal with them? I dont. I'm not jesus christ so I cant possibly forgive everyone who has done me wrong. I do treat others most of the time with understanding, respect and whatever else other kind of bullshit hurdle it is I must jump to ignore thier flaws. And of course i'm never perfect either, so I'm shure i've been the topic of conversation before.

[Lestat]

Hmm...I could do with a new lampshade come to think of it, there isn't one on the bulb in my bedroom, although its low wattage to begin with, and fitted with a dimmer switch, I think the dimmer needs a new pot, as the contacts are a bit iffy. Meaning its too bright a lot of the time.

And you are wrong about the presence of females in the nazi camps bodie, there were quite a few infamous ones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_guards_in_Nazi_concentration_camps