2012 - a retrospective

[odeon]

I cant help but feel that this would have died down ages ago if it wasnt the fact that it was me who made the comment.

Pot kettle black. Would you have continued if it had been somebody else than me and Les replying?

Absolutely yes. TBH, I would prefer to never interact with Les again. Its highly unlikely I would ever choose to initiate any interaction with Les unless he was attacking me, or a good friend. I would never comment on his views or opinions, unless they were clearly aimed at me or a friend.

As for you, its true that I have a certain level of distrust towards you, just as Im sure you have towards me.
Despite your failings and the way you are towards me, I think you are a decent guy at heart. I am prepared to argue a point with you, but dont really have a great desire to do so.


Your post could not be further from the truth, and you are misjudging me a lot.

I don' think my post is that far from the truth, tbh.

Its miles from the truth. I dont want to argue with Les at all. Why on Earth would I want to argue with someone who I truly dislike, and who is only going to continue writing essays at me. Its not like I can even win. It will just go the exact same way as any argument anyone has with him, and be an endless exchange of essays. I have no interest in that. I would much prefer to keep out of his way, and him to keep out of mine.

What essays? His posts in this thread are not longer than yours are, it's just the same tired rhetorical device you used the last time around.

['Butterflies']

I cant help but feel that this would have died down ages ago if it wasnt the fact that it was me who made the comment.

Pot kettle black. Would you have continued if it had been somebody else than me and Les replying?

Absolutely yes. TBH, I would prefer to never interact with Les again. Its highly unlikely I would ever choose to initiate any interaction with Les unless he was attacking me, or a good friend. I would never comment on his views or opinions, unless they were clearly aimed at me or a friend.

As for you, its true that I have a certain level of distrust towards you, just as Im sure you have towards me.
Despite your failings and the way you are towards me, I think you are a decent guy at heart. I am prepared to argue a point with you, but dont really have a great desire to do so.


Your post could not be further from the truth, and you are misjudging me a lot.

I don' think my post is that far from the truth, tbh.

Its miles from the truth. I dont want to argue with Les at all. Why on Earth would I want to argue with someone who I truly dislike, and who is only going to continue writing essays at me. Its not like I can even win. It will just go the exact same way as any argument anyone has with him, and be an endless exchange of essays. I have no interest in that. I would much prefer to keep out of his way, and him to keep out of mine.

What essays? His posts in this thread are not longer than yours are, it's just the same tired rhetorical device you used the last time around.

Im not saying his posts are longer than mine here. Im saying that I truly do not want any interaction with that man at all. I dont want to argue with him, I dont want to speak to him.
I know I could put him on ignore, but Im not really into doing that.

You appear to be saying that I do want to argue with him.

[odeon]

Yeah, right.

['Butterflies']

Yeah, right.

Thats pretty feeble Odeon. Im sure if I was telling you how you feel, and getting it so hopelessly wrong, you'd be quick to tell me I was being pathetic.

I have done nothing to encourage Les. I dont even see what my comments have to do with him.
I can obviously see a reason for you to respond. You do own the site. I have done nothing at all to provoke any dialogue with Les. I have even tried to answer his posts to me as civilly as possible, and without provocation or bitchiness.

I cant understand why you are trying to disagree with me on this matter. Its very clear that Im trying not to fight him.
Its unlikely that youre not smart enough to see this, so I cant help but question your motives here.

[odeon]

Stop insulting my intelligence, Butterflies. You didn't use the word 'essay' when talking abot Les's posts by mistake.

['Butterflies']

Stop insulting my intelligence, Butterflies. You didn't use the word 'essay' when talking abot Les's posts by mistake.

 

Referring to Les' long posts as essays is not an insult. It is a term that is used to jokingly describe any long post here. I think I can safely say, it is not taken as an insult by Les. He even uses the term himself to describe his posts.
I even referred to my first long post in this thread as an essay.

I never thought it would come from you, but this may well have made the top 10 greatest facepalm moments in my time at i2. If you are basing your opinion that I want to argue with Les on the fact that I used the term essays to describe 1 of Les' posts, then you are having an epic aspie moment.


For the record, I apologize to Les for any insult caused in this thread by my use of the ward essays.

I am truly shocked at you Odeon

[Al Swearegen]

Apology accepted

['Butterflies']

Apology accepted

[Beardy McFuckface]

Long, drawn out types of drama is never fun and IMO is one of the reasons why i2 is stagnating.

If done right, drama is brilliant. Examples include:

Eclair Nuddies: Frankly hilarious, and one of the highlights of i2 drama.
Soiled Arse/Razorbeard: Both are equally good in my book. The first time I traded words with truly delusional narcissists.
Chair: Also a narcissist, but at least he was a bit more realistic. Got royally pwned by pretty much all of i2.
TCO Whining: I know this was the catalyst to the long, drawn out drama that bores me, but the initial part was pretty good. Hilarious to see an old man act so petulantly.
Penty/Dook: Both normal drama and pasting his nudes on AFF/4chan etc.
Meadow: What do you get when you put a fucked up narcissist with i2? Chaos, brilliant chaos.
BC: Hilarious in the sense that he pretty much successfully trolled most members here. Then he started being an attention whore on s2 etc, but that's another matter.
Binty Outbursts: Intense, emotionally charged and hilarious.

['Butterflies']

Long, drawn out types of drama is never fun and IMO is one of the reasons why i2 is stagnating.

If done right, drama is brilliant. Examples include:

Eclair Nuddies: Frankly hilarious, and one of the highlights of i2 drama.
Soiled Arse/Razorbeard: Both are equally good in my book. The first time I traded words with truly delusional narcissists.
Chair: Also a narcissist, but at least he was a bit more realistic. Got royally pwned by pretty much all of i2.
TCO Whining: I know this was the catalyst to the long, drawn out drama that bores me, but the initial part was pretty good. Hilarious to see an old man act so petulantly.
Penty/Dook: Both normal drama and pasting his nudes on AFF/4chan etc.
Meadow: What do you get when you put a fucked up narcissist with i2? Chaos, brilliant chaos.
BC: Hilarious in the sense that he pretty much successfully trolled most members here. Then he started being an attention whore on s2 etc, but that's another matter.
Binty Outbursts: Intense, emotionally charged and hilarious.

I agree with all of that.

[TheoK]

Tertius! 

[Pyraxis]

About trying to understand what makes it a retirement home in his eyes and others' an what it actually means. I'd like to understand. I would like people to enjoy the site and if there is something I can do, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

I have my own theories, but they're so bound up in my overall worldview that I doubt I could coherently explain. I'm in the camp that says it goes in cycles, though, and we're at a low point but there's going to be an upswing.

I think Butterflies should name names. 

[Pyraxis]

Long, drawn out types of drama is never fun and IMO is one of the reasons why i2 is stagnating.

You're smarter than you look. 

Do we have long, drawn-out drama going on right now? The consensus is that there's stagnation, therefore it logically follows, yeah?

['Butterflies']

About trying to understand what makes it a retirement home in his eyes and others' an what it actually means. I'd like to understand. I would like people to enjoy the site and if there is something I can do, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

I have my own theories, but they're so bound up in my overall worldview that I doubt I could coherently explain. I'm in the camp that says it goes in cycles, though, and we're at a low point but there's going to be an upswing.

I think Butterflies should name names. 

It really wouldnt be fair. Some of the names will be obvious, and dont need repeated. The ones who arent obvious havent done anything to deserve me doing that to them.

Sorry. TBH, it wouldnt be a good idea anyway. That drama would go on for months and I really cant be bothered dealing with that.

[Pyraxis]

I don't think it's rosy in the garden at all.