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When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« on: September 13, 2012, 02:13:29 AM »
Seriously this may be the greatest incidental religious trolling event in internet history. The film is called "Innocence of Muslims" and it portrays Mohammad in a severely negative light (I mean if you think the Danish cartoons were offensive to Muslims, this dwarfs that controversy many times over). This could actually get serious enough to undermine ten years of US efforts in Afghanistan and various other places in the Middle East, that or even go as far to provoke another war.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19572694
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19570254

Shit just got real, big time.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2012, 02:15:35 AM by ProfessorFarnsworth »
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 02:30:40 AM »
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 02:53:45 AM »
OH SHI-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19584734

It's spreading. But wait until Pakistan's population reacts. Currently their population is in mourning over a incident that killed hundreds of people, so once that's over... Oh fuck.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2012, 02:55:48 AM by ProfessorFarnsworth »
Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 05:26:41 AM »
Actors saying their have been manipulated in this film, not being aware that it was to be about Islam. And, the main man? behind it not to be found?

Very strange, and tricky indeed.

This would be the way to get massive violence, action, and reaction going.

Oh fuck indeed.
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 05:54:35 AM »
I wonder how much the conspiracy theorists are right. In my humble opinion most of what they say is BS, but some of it is obviously true.
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 06:21:05 AM »
I wonder how much the conspiracy theorists are right. In my humble opinion most of what they say is BS, but some of it is obviously true.
Actors saying their have been manipulated in this film, not being aware that it was to be about Islam. And, the main man? behind it not to be found?

Very strange, and tricky indeed.

This would be the way to get massive violence, action, and reaction going.

Oh fuck indeed.
My reaction was along a similar line.  Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 06:41:23 AM »
Also, interesting that these things happened oh so very close to the US presidential elections.

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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2012, 06:52:41 AM »
They're now investigating if the killing of the ambassador to Libya was a set up because someone knew his security detail and when the car picked him up from the building it was immediately fired on with rockets.
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 06:52:52 AM »
What was strange was that at first the New York Times (of all places to expect this written) mentioned that Sam Bacile himself proclaimed he was a Israeli-American Jew. Now they're trying to say his name is unknown and he's likely Christian, omitting this supposed confession. Sounds like a dangerous game of propaganda is emerging from this.

What is suss is the timing, right on 9/11, a perfect time to rekindle hatred on both sides in order to excite potential war. Israel and Romney both gain a lot from this. Israel may get it's war with Iran soon with US commitment (as the hatred boils over into rash actions) and/or Obama may lose the election over mishandling this foreign relations nightmare (as Romney is more committed to Israel's interest against Iran than Obama is).

 
Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2012, 06:55:31 AM »
"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this." - Anonymous

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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2012, 07:01:27 AM »
What was strange was that at first the New York Times (of all places to expect this written) mentioned that Sam Bacile himself proclaimed he was a Israeli-American Jew. Now they're trying to say his name is unknown and he's likely Christian, omitting this supposed confession. Sounds like a dangerous game of propaganda is emerging from this.

What is suss is the timing, right on 9/11, a perfect time to rekindle hatred on both sides in order to excite potential war. Israel and Romney both gain a lot from this. Israel may get it's war with Iran soon with US commitment (as the hatred boils over into rash actions) and/or Obama may lose the election over mishandling this foreign relations nightmare (as Romney is more committed to Israel's interest against Iran than Obama is).

All that. :(
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 07:34:53 AM »
What concerns me more than anything else is that, this is only the beginning and I feel we've seen nothing yet. It's too early right now for any major response (other than the Libyan event) to happen yet, but if I were an American in the Middle East right now, I'd high tail it outta there and FAST.
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Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 07:37:28 AM »
Exactly.
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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 09:42:44 AM »
The US embassy in Berlin has just been evacuated  :-\

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Re: When trolling a religion goes wrong...
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 05:04:22 PM »
Has anyone watched any of it?  It's awful high school kids could do better I can not understand how anyone could take it seriously.  But then again we are talking about religious nutters which are the worst type.  As to who did it and conspiracies this could be just about anyone all sides could use this to their benefit. Obama could look presidential  meeting out justice to the offenders, Romney could go on about how he would do more and attack this group or that.  Israel could try to use it to get an attack on Iran.  Fundie Muslims could use it to gain more power.  Even China and Russia could have done it to through the US off balance.  Of course oil will rise in price so the Saudis will be raking in the money. So good news for everyone except of course the people who will die which will not be anyone with money or that will gain with the exception of the death of the ambassador well that was necessary to peak the outrage I am sure it was nothing personal
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