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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 04:33:52 PM »
It's a regrettable fact that most Americans (obviously) don't really understand what the 2nd Amendment is about but shoot the small crooks instead of the big ones, but the principle is 200% right.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 04:45:04 PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 20, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
I don't get how gun ownership threatens politicians?

Your politicians in the US are under more control than ours, are they?

And you dont seem to get it. I'm not BLAMING the gun. Obviously an inanimate object doesnt shoot someone of its own accord. But give a psycho a gun, and he's a lot more dangerous than he was without it

I for one am glad we have strict gun control here

and i dont think your political situation is any better than ours just because your ppl have guns. so how is it a threat to politicians? surely it's usually civilians getting shot?

The 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution is intended to keep the government in check by having an armed citizenry that can dispose of any unjust and corrupt government. You Brits lost your gun rights one tragedy at a time, and guess what, crime still happened. Case in point, the 2009 Upton Park riots. In actuality, the US is not an excellent model for an armed citizenry, a better example would be Switzerland.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 04:57:53 PM »
I've no idea why this nutjob killed 12 people. Was it lax gun laws or a dx on the spectrum? Or something else that someone can and will blame? But I do know that these things happen more frequently overseas, per capita. Seems to me that the 2d amendment doesn't protect the people. Happening one tragedy at a time, too.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »
He was studying for a PHD in neuroscience and was studying the psychology of mental disabilities........go figure. A top student in his class and of course a recluse

And there were 71 people shot in all


Just a deeply disturbed person
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 05:25:13 PM »
Quote from: Icequeen on July 20, 2012, 12:27:10 PM
CBC is probably already on the top ten list. :cbc:

Everyone knows weebles are unstable. :zoinks:

  That's just one more stereotype we Weebles have to combat!
  In reality we are exceptionally  stable, we wobble :cbc: but we don't fall down.

  *sigh*  How much longer must my people fight for acceptance and understanding?
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 05:26:29 PM »
Quote from: Parts on July 20, 2012, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Icequeen on July 20, 2012, 12:27:10 PM
CBC is probably already on the top ten list. :cbc:

Everyone knows weebles are unstable. :zoinks:

And who knows what she has hidden in her hoard :zoinks:

  Well, I still have loads of old mail to sort, I could inflict a lot of paper cuts!  :zoinks:
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 05:29:18 PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 20, 2012, 02:03:42 PM
fuckin americans with their fuckin guns ::)

btw did you guys see what that Republican from Texas said? why didn't anyone else in the cinema have a gun to kill him with? lol because we should all take guns with us when we go to the cinema. fucking idiot. and he blamed it on lack of judeo-christian values or something?


christ. what is it with your republican knobs? how do people take them seriously?

  I always vote Democrat, in hope of keeping the Bible thumpers out of office.  :yarly:
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2012, 07:11:33 PM »
Holmes can't possibly have ASD.  He claimed to be the Joker.  Everyone knows people with ASD don't have senses or humour or understand subtle nuances.
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2012, 08:32:37 PM »
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2012, 08:42:14 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2012, 09:02:42 PM »
He is the Joker.  Both of them have acted out of a hatred of social order.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2012, 12:57:33 AM »
Quote from: TA on July 20, 2012, 04:45:04 PM
The 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution is intended to keep the government in check by having an armed citizenry that can dispose of any unjust and corrupt government. You Brits lost your gun rights one tragedy at a time, and guess what, crime still happened. Case in point, the 2009 Upton Park riots. In actuality, the US is not an excellent model for an armed citizenry, a better example would be Switzerland.

Like I say: I don't get why most people here in Europe are in favour of gun laws, even those who, opposed to myself, believe in the state.

One example: yesterday I read a book about how Sophie Scholl became involved in the German resistance. One of the events was about a Jewish widow, who was a friend of their family. One day the Jewish widow came to Sophie's father and gave him her husband's gun, which she still had in her possession and said: "You are an officer, so you know better how to use it". A few days later the Gestapo took her to a concentration camp, where she died. According to Adam and others, she did the right thing. In my humble opinion, she should have kept the gun and killed as many Gestapo pigs as possible, because she was going to die herself anyway, without having done anything more than being Jewish.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2012, 01:31:14 AM »
Quote from: odeon on July 20, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
I've no idea why this nutjob killed 12 people. Was it lax gun laws or a dx on the spectrum? Or something else that someone can and will blame? But I do know that these things happen more frequently overseas, per capita. Seems to me that the 2d amendment doesn't protect the people. Happening one tragedy at a time, too.

Say that a real nutjob becomes president, nut only some half nutjob like G.W. Bush, but someone absolutely batshit insane person, and that he starts putting Americans in concentration camps etc. The Americans then by far have better opportunities than most Europeans, maybe with the exception of Switzerland and the Czech Republic.

They can't win battles against the US armed forces, of course, but they can carry out acts of sabotage and kill high officers, officials, politicians etc. as acts of resistance.

In countries like China people don't have guns, so they can't put up any resistance to start with. In countries with guns but with strict gun control, they know who has legal guns and, in case of severe resistance, they shoot the gun owners first. When the Germans occupied France, the French had 24 hours after the French capitulation to give up their private guns to the German military. When Germany itself was defeated, no German civilians were allowed to own guns again before 1956.

The fact that the military confiscated guns from civilians as well shows that it's not pointless to have civilian guns as a last resort of resistance. If they really had believed what the proponents of gun control are saying, that you don't stand a chance with civilian guns, why, then were civilian guns confiscated?

In Yugoslavia everyone had guns in the 1930's. Yugoslavia was also extremely hard to keep occupied during WWII. It's also believed that one of the reasons that Switzerland was never invaded, despite it being a country with a German majority (and thus "belonging" to Germany), was that every Swiss male had a gun. Same reason why the Japanese never tried to invade the US mainland. They knew that not only the military but most civilians too would be able to defend themselves.
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Re: I hope this guy doesn't have AS
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2012, 01:57:28 AM »
I wouldnt be surprised if he was aspie.
Breivik is probably aspie too.

We should be better than "wishful thinking" guys... better than resorting to wishful protests "boo hoo no he isnt aspie! i am aspie! waaah!", when Breivik was first mentioned to likely be aspie, norwegian autists protested left and right. Lame.
He is a person isnt he? We are persons too.

And as an aspie, i can understand what causes him to go rampant like this, all this alienation from society that we all recognize so well, this disconnection from social norms, etc etc.
this doesnt mean YOU or ME is a killer. we should know this.
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