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*twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« on: May 22, 2012, 11:03:42 PM »
my stepmother came over last week, and decided to tidy up my room, like the helpless retard i am

when i came back, i had a desk "wow :0" that she found underneath lots of laundry, envelopes, dishes, and further whatnot

so, it took me exactly one day in posession of a clean desk, to draw my first detailed dinosaur in almost 10 years.

these 10 years, i have grown, mentally, and i have also "devised" a lot of theoretic "mindsets" if you will, regarding the procedure of drawing technical drawings. i have drawn countless mechanical drawings (weapons) and other realism-related concepts (the mannequins, for example), and i have especially honed my patience in drawings.
the patience especially, was something i for a long time wanted to "try out" on my dinosaur drawings.

when i was a teen, i always considered my drawings "almost there, but not quite" comparing them to my idols.

i decided to draw an old famous fellow tentatively known as "Citipati sp.", but most famously (and incorrectly) refered to as Oviraptor philoceratops.
The most correct way to refer to this specimen, however, is GI 100/42.

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from its original publication.

In fact, this specimen has been incorrectly labelled "Oviraptor" so much, if you google Oviraptor, theres almost a 99% chance youll encounter THIS one, instead of the animal that IS Oviraptor:

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it is closely related, but as you can see, much less complete, and more elongated. The crest is completely missing.

In 1997 this was found:

and it was named Citipati osmolskae
I agree with a minority of researchers, that GI 100/42 not only is a species of Citipati, but in fact a male Citipati osmolskae, leaving the skull above a female, sporting a smaller crest - thus resolving the GI 100/42 matter.

As soon as i was finished, i decided to draw another taxonomical mess, in the oviraptorid family:
"Ingenia" yanshini / Conchoraptor gracilis / "Misrata specimen"

"Ingenia" is super-obscure, and _not_ known from a skull, despite countless museums sporting crest-less skulls incorrectly labelled "Ingenia". To make matters worse, the name "Ingenia" turned out to be preoccupied, and therefore no longer valid, rendering "Ingenia" effectively nameless. Researching "Ingenia" is risky unless you know exactly what fossil specimens you deal with, because of this notoriously systematic mislabeling.

"Ingenia" is known from a robustly built, but fragmentary postcranial skeleton.
Conchoraptor gracilis is known from a fairly well known skeleton, it is slightly more gracile than "Ingenia", but otherwise there arent many differences. The most important part, the head, is frustratingly uncomparable, since Ingenia lacks it.
the "Misrata specimen" is a privately owned (argh) newly discovered specimen, sporting a head _very_ similar to Conchoraptor, but contrastingly adorned by a tall, spectacular crest.
In 2010 the author Greg Paul baffled me with the following proposal: They are all one. The crest-less Conchoraptor is simply a juvenile "Misrata", and since Conchoraptor is allready to be considered a juvenile, its vague differences from Ingenia no longer matter, making all 3 likely a single species (they are all from the exact same location).
To top it off, Conchoraptor gracilis (the prioritized name) becomes Citipati gracilis as there really isnt enough to warrant a complete generic separation from Citipati.

In the attachments are my poorly photographed Citipati osmolskae, the male specimen (GI 100/42),
Citipati gracilis based on the bodies of "Ingenia" and Conchoraptor with the newly discovered head of the "Misrata specimen",
and finally a squawking Heyuannia huangi which i once again agree with Paul should simply be known as Citipati huangi.

I then got the aspie-twitch.
I ended up completing all Oviraptorids, with a relatively decent skull preserved.

When i was done with that, i decided to go back and actually include the "lumped" ones, for completion.
I just finished Khaan mckennai, a tiny, slender, crest-less oviraptorid, that is likely to be a young Citipati osmolskae but not widely accepted at such. This i suspect has to do with emotions, more than anything. Dino-geeks are generally very reluctant to accept "lumping" (when two dinosaur names become one. people feel like one of the two is "lost". obviously, it isnt.)
As logical as the unification of Ingenia and Conchoraptor - or Khaan and Citipati is, you wont find a single word on the matter on wikipedia, for example, as wiki is edited by especially young "dinosaur fans" who will rather die, than see their beloved Khaan or Conchoraptor get "absorbed" by another dinosaur name. This attitude is of course childish and unscientific, but then again, it should be no surprise that serious human enterprise is full of childish emotional impulse.

When i am all done, i am going to properly scan them at my dads, and share them with the world, for free, cus im swell like that :M
and youll all get the worthless little benefit of being better acknowledged with my favorite dinosaurs - the Oviraptorids!

/el ranto.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 11:08:38 PM by ZEGH8578 »

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 11:11:52 PM »
those look awesome zegh! how ever i can not see the bottom two... i must admit i did not read all of it as i am feeling quite add at the moment but if i am not feeling ADD later tonight [chances are slim but possible] i will read the entire article you wrote.

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 11:19:53 PM »
heh, its mostly nerdy musings anyway, much more befitting a blog than a random aspie forum :D

for your benefit, ill elaborate slightly on my "gripe" with naming conventions:

scientific names go by:
Genus species
Homo sapiens
Panthera tigris

The species name is specific, and in living creatures it is genetically testable - it is defineable. The Genus however is entirely subjective, and researchers argue a lot about genus names, regarding both extinct and extant animals, because its subjective and they cant agree, famously wether to call the lynx Felis lynx (lumping it together with all small cats, just cus) or Lynx lynx (setting aside a whole different Genus for the lynx, just cus)

In fossils _everything_ becomes subjective, because their genes cannot be tested. Therefore researchers argue even more about the necesity/unecesity of creating new Genus names left and right. The truth is, a researcher gains fame and glory by creating a new name. and thats a problem. it corrupts science.
So... some researchers then go around demonstratively lumping names together, a big "fuck you all" to their community, pissing everyone off, but - technically - doing the right thing.
in dinosaurs this is even more prevalent, due to their popularity. naming a new dinosaur simply "makes you awesome", and it becomes especially problematic when specimens are too young, too old, or of a distinct gender, making them visually appear as if new undiscovered species, causing eager researchers to ignore the possibility that his new skeleton simply is a subadult or female or male of a known species. it basically "pops their bubble" and makes them sadz.

/more rants :D

Otherwise, oviraptor-specific information, ill probably add with the finished scans of each species :]
(i dont know why the last two arent visible, they show for me. i will properly upload the scans later on tho, a few days i guess, i have 2-3 specimens left to draw.. :D)
« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 11:23:00 PM by ZEGH8578 »

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 09:30:48 AM »
I like the singing one  :thumbup:

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
I like the singing one  :thumbup:

hah, yes, i wanted it to be openly interpretable. i like that we dont always "get" what animals are doing, so, yes, it could simply be singing, just for the sake of making some noise :D

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 11:12:15 AM »
Brilliant Zegh. I've always enjoyed your dinosaur ramblings. I learn so much :)
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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 11:20:17 AM »
my pleasure :]

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Re: *twitch* time for aspieness deluxe
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 04:42:52 AM »
ADHD here too. But the drawings are awesome to look at. They should be shared with the world. :)
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