Dad shoots daughter's laptop over facebook post

["couldbecousin"]

ant shooting is a big sport here

you see people shooting into the ground all the time

we holler out "did you get one/"

and they holler back "Hell, yes"

its a big deal here in the trailer park

 I want to live in a trailer park so I can shoot into the ground all day! 

[skyblue1]

ant shooting is a big sport here

you see people shooting into the ground all the time

we holler out "did you get one/"

and they holler back "Hell, yes"

its a big deal here in the trailer park

 I want to live in a trailer park so I can shoot into the ground all day! 

eases frustrations and good sport, cause the ants will bite

["couldbecousin"]

ant shooting is a big sport here

you see people shooting into the ground all the time

we holler out "did you get one/"

and they holler back "Hell, yes"

its a big deal here in the trailer park

 I want to live in a trailer park so I can shoot into the ground all day! 

eases frustrations

 I loved shooting at the range, I felt so focused!   

['andersom']

Now I hear the dad is being harassed by social services and the police. Though they aren't taking her away from him, they keep getting calls and reports on "child abuse" and now Tommy (the father) has to deal with getting a lawyer. Yep another reason why posting about it online is a bad idea. I still think he should have handled it through words than posting a video about it for the whole world to see.

His facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii


You can find some drama on his wall about the incident. That's also where I got the information about his new situation the video is putting him through.

  

He sure goes all the way to showing his daughter all about how public posting online is. And how big the consequences can be.




For the rest, IQ said it well I think.

Teens need to vent every now and then too, I remember being one (I think ), it sucked some days. I tend to take stuff like that rant the girl wrote with a grain of salt.

The only difference is before you used to vent to your friends on the playground or to your best friend on the phone holed up in your room.

Now they use facebook and what they don't realize is that it's like writing it on a fucking billboard for the whole world to see.

[Natalia Evans]

Now I hear the dad is being harassed by social services and the police. Though they aren't taking her away from him, they keep getting calls and reports on "child abuse" and now Tommy (the father) has to deal with getting a lawyer. Yep another reason why posting about it online is a bad idea. I still think he should have handled it through words than posting a video about it for the whole world to see.

His facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii


You can find some drama on his wall about the incident. That's also where I got the information about his new situation the video is putting him through.

This is all I could find:

"Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't," Jordan said on Facebook.

"There's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this," Jordan posted. "It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's not how I was raised, nor how she has been raised. My daughter isn't hurt, emotionally scarred, or otherwise damaged, but that kind of publicity has never seemed to have a positive effect on any child or family."

“Never again in my entire life will I ever do anything that garnishes this much attention, both positive and negative. I really wished we’d been prepared or something… this seems like a great time to stand up and say “Stay in School” and “Drugs are bad” and so many other things. I’m just not that complex a person to know what to do with it. Never again will I have the opportunity to speak to so many people about anything.. and instead I’m sitting here stupefied.”

“I’m ok with you picking on me. And I’m ok with you picking on my posts, but I’m NOT ok with you picking on my kid. Yes, I’ve already dealt with the local police, who by the way said “From our entire department, Kudo’s to you, sir.”

“Now I’m letting my daughter have her interview with Social Services, so they too can be satisfied that I don’t yell at her, beat her, traumatize her, lock her in a clo…set without food, deprive her of basic human rights, make her cut the grass with scizzors, hunt for her meals in the wild with only a spork, or otherwise fail to provide for my daughter. She’s great. She’s strong. And apparently she’s handling it better than some of you are.”

To answer the "why don't you just take the video down" comments we've receivied: Because our attorney's told us not to. The license granted to YouTube when it was posted protects us as long as it's hosted there. Once it gets removed, that particular copyright protection and intellectual property right ceases to exist on the YouTube medium. Additionally, my own thought on the matter was "Well, it's out there now and I can' take it back. If I take it down, it'll only get replaced with some pieced-together edited version or portrayed some other way. Taking it down would only imply that we are hiding from it and trying to make it go away.

We do want it all to go away, but we're not hiding from it. I said it and everyone knows it... there's nothing else to do but leave it

For the record:
None of the "other" Facebook pages are me or my family.
NO, I'm not hosting online chat sessions. Neither is my family.

I'm sorry it's come to this, but now we have impostors, duplicators, and hundreds of other issues to handle that we can't avoid or handle.

On the advice of our attorneys, we're issuing blanket copyright statements across the board and warnings to everyone who's tried to impersonate any of us or duplicate ANY of our online content. This isn't because we wanted to.. it's because some idiot(s) pretending to be me or my family members has been online chatting with people, uploading videos pretending to be me etc... if ONE of those sets off a spark of rage, then I've got some gun-toting idiot stalking my house and trying to cause harm to my family because of something they're convinced I've said. This has to stop.

So, if you've been illegally duplicating the video, take it down.
If you've put up a Facebook page that pretends to BE me, take it down.
Otherwise, the lawsuits start tomorrow morning.

I'm NOT talking about those who have either fan or hate pages. You guys are entitled to your own opinions and I wont try to censor you. If you hate me bad enough to make a page about it, that's your right. I don't like it, but... well, I said what I did online and now I have to deal with the repercussions.

However, trying to impersonate us, or duplicate copyrighted material is a Federal Offense (not state) and is punishable by both jail time AND a $250,000.00 fine PER INCIDENT... so if it's that important to you to do what you're doing.. just know that the attorneys are HAPPY to sue on our behalf just to collect their share of the fines. The attorney prosecution starts tomorrow at 8 AM. You've got 12 hours to take it all down.

And to the guys posting all our personal information on Pastebin... they're dying to get their hands on you! That breaches MULTIPLE federal laws. You're on the top of the list.

And to those who are pissed because the copyright statements are on the video and it's been monetized.... well, I've got to pay for the attorney's somehow. Get over it.

Update:
This may come as a wild shock to some.. wait for it.. wait.... (I need that guy who did the awesome HD youtube parody to do me an intro here. Where is he when I need him?)

I'm NOT a hero... of ANY kind... at all.
I'm not a super-dad, or awesome parent.

I'm a normal guy with reasonable a moral compass that I try very hard to keep pointed north. I make a LOT of mistakes. Did I say a LOT? I mean a WHOLE lot! Daily... sometimes hourly!

I'm extremely lucky to have a very strong wife who tolerates me and puts up with my mistakes, and who herself is strong enough that she can put me in my place with only a look.. no really.. you haven't seen her "I'm not kidding anymore" face... it's serious.
(For example I can apparently destroy a laptop and garnish world-wide attention in mere seconds, but I guarantee tomorrow morning my wife will say "Hey Chuck Norris. Make the freakin BED WILL YOU PLEASE" because I'll forget to.
(I have to admit the "Chuck Norris wears Tommy Jordan pajamas" comment will stay with me for the rest of my life. I want that on a bumper sticker!)

I'm lucky to have great kids (two of them) who look up to me despite all my mistakes.
I make bad parenting decisions all the time. We all do. Personally, I stand behind the decision I made earlier this week by posting the video. I don't find fault with it. If I had it to do again... let's see... I'd do it almost the same.

I'd not be smoking a cigarette. (That's a habit I promised my wife I'd quit as soon as I could afford to just go out and buy a Chantix prescription. She absolutely hates it and I'm getting mature enough to want to quit it for my own reasons as well.)

I'd not have used the word "ass" in my comment directed at my daughter. That was rude and a bad example of a parent using the "Do as I say, not as I do" philosophy

I'd have worn my Silverbelly Stetson, not my Tilley hat if I'd known that image was going to follow me the rest of my life and I'd probably have cleaned my boots.

That's it. I meant all the rest of it. My wife is OK with it. My daughter is OK with it. My Mother is OK with it. I'm OK with it. We're the only ones that matter.
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For those that feel the need to keep calling the police and CPS. lol

Apparently both the local police and the department of social services are OK with it. Yes they came. Of course they came. They received enough "Oh my god he's going to kill his daughter" comments that they had to. I knew that the moment it went viral.. it was too late and it was inevitable. I'm only surprised it took as long as it did to be honest.

The police by the way said "Kudos, Sir" and most of them made their kids watch it. I actually had a "thank you" from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How's about those apples? Didn't expect THAT when you called the cops did you?

The kind lady from Child Protective Services looked all through the house, the yard, and found ours to be a healthy home. She saw the unloaded guns in their rack with the magazines removed and stored separately and safely. Funny thing: The case officer asked to see "the gun".... "Umm, sir, may I see the actual..umm.. weapon used for the video?" She wasn't at all scared of me but I could tell she doesn't like guns as a general rule. To each their own though. She was comfortable that I was adhering to NC gun safety regulations for the protection of minors, and that's all she needed. But of course if you want to continue, I'm just going to leave a pot of coffee on for the next officers who come by. (Digress: Maybe I can get Krispy Kreme to sponsor me with lifetime donuts? Oh God that would be heaven. Dunkin? Crap... KK all the way....)

She asked if I minded if she interviewed my daughter privately but that I didn't have to agree. I let her meet in private and then she and I met for about an hour and a half. At the end of the day, no I'm not losing my kids, no one's in danger of being ripped from our home that I know of, and I actually got to spend some time with the nice lady and learn some cool parenting tips that I didn't know.. I use them on my 8 year old son, but not on my fifteen year old daughter.. but now I will! There were a few things I thought she was "too old" for, but after talking to the case worker, I feel like it's worth a shot to try them. Maybe I'll sell those secrets in my next book! (Seriously? You just got mad didn't you? I'm kidding. Besides, that would still only give me two pages of material- one parent tip page and one page on handgun selection techniques appropriate for different electronic destructive purposes.)

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Back to me being a normal guy... I digressed again.
You guys caught me on eight and a half minutes of ONE day in my life, probably the worst day in my life as a father. So, all in all, I consider the vast overwhelming show of support to be very very gratifying... that was me at my worst, not my best. If most of you found me OK as a Dad at that time, then I'm definitely OK the rest of the time. I was angry, hurt as hell, emotional as can possibly be, and stunned still. I'd taken an hour to compose myself, but apparently I should have waited longer.. and maybe used the .22 instead of the .45. (And since when does an 8 minute video EVER go viral? And maybe the next video I'll do will be auctioning the pistol I used.. that should buy some serious college tuition, but please understand that I will definitely use the profits to also purchase a replacement .45.)

I'd like to think that if a camera followed me around and filmed every moment of my life as a parent, most of you out there would still put me in the plus column. Truthfully most of you would probably be bored. I'm just ordinary. I was raised old fashioned, and I raise my kids the same way... the modern generational concepts be damned!
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And OK, so THAT brings me to a topic I'll close with, though I had no intention of speaking on it when I started this rant. (Hey, aren't the 25 thousand of you who subscribed really regretting it now? I'm always this scatter brained. Makes you wonder how I formed enough sensible sentences to write a book doesn't it? Then again... maybe that accounts for the book sales being in the toilet...)

So, my last point:
I've received a LOT of comments (and by lot you have to understand there's literally MILLIONS of them. I'll likely never be able to read them all in my lifetime) pointing out that I was raised old fashioned apparently that that I needed to learn to be a parent in today's world.

Umm.. is there a polite way to call bull***t!?

The kids today ARE self entitled, spoiled, adverse to working, and basically have NO usable skills taught to them in schools. (Yes some of you out there excel. If you've graduated high school and at least pay some of your own bills, then I'm not talking to you. If you however are 25 and live with your parents because you're too lazy to get a job, then yes, I'm talking to you. Half of that is the parent's fault for thinking that the school system is supposed to raise their kids. The other half is a parent's fault for letting our school systems get to the utterly pathetic state they are in. It's your kid.. so no matter what it's ALWAYS your fault.. get it?

I'll give you a real example from the NC school system. My daughter just finished Honors Geometry in school. Halfway through the semester she asks me "Dad, can you help me type this math problem into your graphing calculator? I can't get the equation to come out right." I said "sure" and went over to help out. The problem was about calculating the tangent of a line, but I can't remember the specifics of it at the moment. I took a look at it and said "Honey, why don't you just do the problem manually... you know, on a piece of paper? It's pretty easy."

She honestly looked at me like I was a complete idiot! "You can't do it with a pencil and paper, Dad. Sheesh!"

I stared at her dumbfounded. "Honey, you DO know that tangential math has been around since the 1600s, right? Over 500 years. Long BEFORE graphing calculators existed..., right?"
Her response was "Well, we're not taught that. We're just taught how to enter it into a calculator and get the right answer."

Absolutely SURE she must be crazy, I checked.... and she's right. HONORS mathematics at the high school level doesn't teach kids basic math principles. At all!!! If a modern honors geometry student had to calculate the distance of a line from the top of a flag pole to any point in space relative to the ground.. they have no idea how to do it. (How many of you just asked your kids to show you how to do that? Wait... how many more are Googling it right now? Stop. That's cheating.)

Further, almost every state now is taking "writing" out of schools. Kids are now being taught to print, and that's it. No need for actual writing because they all have computers. I'm NOT making this up! This is TRUE!! They learn the alphabetic characters... and nothing more. The age of eloquent thought borne by patient strokes of pen to paper... are gone like Rhett Butler's sex appeal.

So let me recap... you don't learn math, you don't learn to write actual words without the benefit of spell-check. You don't apparently learn grammar either because I've SEEN those text books and quizzes.. horrible.

Yet you want ME to stop raising MY child with old fashioned methods that actually made me fairly intelligent, capable of fending for myself, capable of managing money, holding a job, respecting my elders, etc?

So you can replace it with what? You want to teach kids it's OK to talk back to parents as long as they have the freedom to express themselves. You want to outlaw spankings. You've obviously made it OK for them to be stupid upon graduating high school. You've recently made it illegal for kids to work around any animal that can harm them under the age of 18, to include working in hay lofts, around dogs, or cats, horses, or cattle, etc. (Thanks for that law Obama.. idiot) You won't let them work in a restaurant that serves alcohol until 18 in most states. You won't let them work at ALL until 15 (It was 13 for me, but Dad lied and got me started when I was 12). When are they supposed to learn actual adult stuff exactly? When do they learn responsibility? No kid left behind? Pfft.. EVERY kid left behind! (Dang I'm mad now.. maybe I WILL run for President... no, wife already vetoed that one. I'd really love to though.. really, seriously!)

"Modern" parenting raises ill-prepared kids who can't do anything and have no skills because they're protected from even LEARNING them until 18 years old, at which time you want us parents to throw them out into the world, send them off to college, and expect them to be productive members of society? You can take your "modern" parenting, and shove it. Jeezus people. Half of you think chores at 15 are too much! God forbid we make them actually WORK too!

(packing my soapbox away and going to bed now)

[Pyraxis]

I dunno, I'm starting to like this guy. He's owning up to his shit, he's honest, and he does seem to care about his kids.

[Al Swearegen]

I dunno, I'm starting to like this guy. He's owning up to his shit, he's honest, and he does seem to care about his kids.

I think the question was never for me was killing the laptop bad but how true were her allegations.
If he really was inconsiderately making a shit load of mess deliberately for her to clean and not seeking to minise it or help. Then yeah that was a bit disrespectful adn she was in turn being disrespectful back.
if she was making it up or exaggerating it then yeah his exaggeration probabaly no worse than hers
fair is fair.

[Adam]

I think what she did was stupid, if she posted it somewhere public

But I don't think it was terrible

How many teenagers bitch about their parents at that age?

Kids her age OFTEN feel theyre hard done by, and getting too much shit from their parents

theyre at that kinda age

posting it on facebook was stupid, sure, but the internet is where kids do a lot of their talking now. what she did wasn't

destroying a computer seems kinda stupid when it's you who (likely) paid for it