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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2012, 12:25:13 PM »
See how you think in a few years and with a few deaths behind you. 

Huh? You think I've never experienced a death before?

Wow

I won't even bother responding to that

Good, because you evidently are so wrapped up in this that you misunderstood that I wrote deaths, PLURAL.  Not death SINGULAR.  And there is no need to respond.

I have experienced more than one death in my life. I don't see how that changes what you said though. How many deaths must someone experience before they're allowed an opinion on this? ::)

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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 05:31:19 PM »
Adam, I apologize for my heated responses to you. 

I honestly beliefe that I do not have the right to tell anyone how to live their life. 

My posts were not well written and would have been less antagonistic if I'd taken more time in composing them and explaining myself.  This is an area I will need to work on to avoid this type of misunderstanding. 

Again, I'm sorry that anything I wrote disrespected and angered you.
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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 05:36:30 PM »
its ok , no need to apologise. i was just a bit pissed off  with the assumption that i was too young to understand because most of my family are still alive etc.

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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 05:51:15 PM »
I don't think grieving in itself should be labelled a mental illness.

It's a part of life, and, everyone does it different. There are some things that seem to happen in almost all grieving processes though. And, based on that, you can see when people get stuck in a grieving process, where it becomes a problem.

That can happen after two months, after a year, after 6 months. It should not be the time that dictates when a process has gone off in an unhealthy route. And people should not have to wait for a year till they can get appropriate help when it is going wrong for them.

If it gets one label, will that mean one way of help provided by the insurances? Grieving that turns problematic will be different depending where it went wrong.

Someone still in denial after a year needs different help than someone stuck in anger, or someone in a depression. The label makes no sense to me.
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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 05:53:11 PM »
Death reminds us how fragile life is.  Time left is an unknown quantity.  I can see how this realisation might affect people long term. I guess its very depressing for some,  to be reminded of the fact.

I couldn't give a rats ass what happens to me when i die.  Throw me to the pigs?  I won't know.  I'll be dead.   It's how you treat me when i am alive that counts.

You can put me in a fancy coffin,  in a horse draw hearse, bury me  in a nice spot under a tree...and you can sob,  and sing silly hymns,  and wear black, and be as respectful as you damn well like  -  it means fuck all really if i am dead.

If you have love for someone,  do it now?  that is my philosophy.  I wonder if some people struggle with grief if they feel guilty about how they treated that person.  Just a thought.
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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2012, 05:55:43 PM »
The who, the why, the how, those things all have an impact on grieving.
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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2012, 06:08:28 PM »
I graduated high school in 1998 and already 5 people i went to school with are dead. Seems grossly disproportionate.

Different deaths have affected me differently. One persons death made me laugh out loud. The times I was very upset by someone dying it always took a day or 2 to sink in.


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Re: Grieving to be labelled mental illness
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 11:52:53 PM »
Death reminds us how fragile life is.  Time left is an unknown quantity.  I can see how this realisation might affect people long term. I guess its very depressing for some,  to be reminded of the fact.

I couldn't give a rats ass what happens to me when i die.  Throw me to the pigs?  I won't know.  I'll be dead.   It's how you treat me when i am alive that counts.

You can put me in a fancy coffin,  in a horse draw hearse, bury me  in a nice spot under a tree...and you can sob,  and sing silly hymns,  and wear black, and be as respectful as you damn well like  -  it means fuck all really if i am dead.

If you have love for someone,  do it now?  that is my philosophy.  I wonder if some people struggle with grief if they feel guilty about how they treated that person.  Just a thought.

Maybe in some cases, but definitely not in others.