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Who controls the FDA?
« on: December 05, 2011, 05:57:11 AM »
Every so often I find myself wondering this.  Not where it's seated in the government on paper- that's easily accessible info- but, who holds the purse strings to what parts of it.  Figured there was a fair chance if I posted it here someone here would jump up and say "Ooh!  Ooh!  I know!" and jump in with an answer/links/etc.

Part of why I'm wondering at the moment is I don't really trust their health "guidelines" (as at some point I guess I turned into a conspiracy theorist?) and wonder what what the likely skews/biases are.
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 06:15:06 AM »
 I'm not the best-informed citizen, but I imagine they are courted by many lobbyists!  :orly:
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 06:18:02 AM »
Isn't there some sort of Health Minister for each state or something? Or is this what the easily accessible info is. I can find stuff on how it is organised, but not how the money spending is organised.
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 06:34:06 AM »
What is the FDA?
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 06:38:53 AM »
Quote from: Al Swearengen on December 05, 2011, 06:34:06 AM
What is the FDA?

 The Food and Drug Administration!  :police:
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 06:56:20 AM »
Quote from: Al Swearengen on December 05, 2011, 06:34:06 AM
What is the FDA?
Not sure what the Australian equivalent is. Don't know if we have one. :dunno:
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 07:25:47 AM »
Quote from: PMS Elle on December 05, 2011, 05:57:11 AM
Every so often I find myself wondering this.  Not where it's seated in the government on paper- that's easily accessible info- but, who holds the purse strings to what parts of it.  Figured there was a fair chance if I posted it here someone here would jump up and say "Ooh!  Ooh!  I know!" and jump in with an answer/links/etc.

Part of why I'm wondering at the moment is I don't really trust their health "guidelines" (as at some point I guess I turned into a conspiracy theorist?) and wonder what what the likely skews/biases are.

What is it you don't trust exactly?

Let's start with something specific.
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 07:26:30 AM »
Quote from: couldbecousin on December 05, 2011, 06:15:06 AM
I'm not the best-informed citizen, but I imagine they are courted by many lobbyists!  :orly:

Let's have a debate. :orly:
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 07:33:15 AM »
Quote from: Calavera on December 05, 2011, 07:26:30 AM
Quote from: couldbecousin on December 05, 2011, 06:15:06 AM
I'm not the best-informed citizen, but I imagine they are courted by many lobbyists!  :orly:

Let's have a debate. :orly:

 But I have no facts or figures, only my intuition!  :orly:
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 07:35:15 AM »
Ah the board that controls what constitutes Ok in food production and distribution and advertising and what is Ok when it comes to alcohol and tobacco.

I heard that in America that most of the big tobacco and liquor barons lobby agencies to gain favour and have their way and what they can't get through such agencies directly they get by hefty donations through political parties for favourable concessions. From this understanding laws are bent if not broken and the agency loses its teeth or effect?

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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 07:37:42 AM »
Quote from: PMS Elle on December 05, 2011, 05:57:11 AM
Every so often I find myself wondering this.  Not where it's seated in the government on paper- that's easily accessible info- but, who holds the purse strings to what parts of it.  Figured there was a fair chance if I posted it here someone here would jump up and say "Ooh!  Ooh!  I know!" and jump in with an answer/links/etc.

Part of why I'm wondering at the moment is I don't really trust their health "guidelines" (as at some point I guess I turned into a conspiracy theorist?) and wonder what what the likely skews/biases are.

Wonder about that too.

Depends on the country what medication is allowed and considered safe. Who makes the guidelines, why are they the way they are, and who benefits from the guidelines as they are.

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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 07:39:40 AM »
I was thinking maybe Elle meant something about fluoridation and stuff like that. If it's just a matter of certain lobbies getting their own way through the FDA, I don't know and it's not a topic that interests me if there is no specific claim being made that we can investigate and see for ourselves.
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 07:40:23 AM »
 I don't know whether the FDA has any say in alcohol or tobacco, since we also have a
 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. http://www.atf.gov/
 But arguably food lobbyists and pharmaceutical companies could achieve
 approval of their products through some form of bribery.  :(
 
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 07:40:59 AM »
Quote from: Al Swearengen on December 05, 2011, 07:35:15 AM
Ah the board that controls what constitutes Ok in food production and distribution and advertising and what is Ok when it comes to alcohol and tobacco.

I heard that in America that most of the big tobacco and liquor barons lobby agencies to gain favour and have their way and what they can't get through such agencies directly they get by hefty donations through political parties for favourable concessions. From this understanding laws are bent if not broken and the agency loses its teeth or effect?

Truth in that? Just what I heard. Sounded about right, knowing what little i do of human nature and its fraility when political power is thrown in the mix.
Alcohol and tobacco are controlled by the BATFE.
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Re: Who controls the FDA?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 07:41:51 AM »
Finances is a big one here, to decide on what is allowed and what not, to prescribe. Do know that.
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