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« on: November 11, 2011, 12:48:12 AM »
truly truly fascinates me
the brain can be manipulated in many ways, and i am always enormously eager to learn about the theory behind magic tricks and pickpocketing the same

just recently did i realize that a TON of these "unbelievable" magic tricks are made for tv, and that the illusion in question is just that: theyre movie-tricks, computer generated effects, actors, you name it. the illusion is the trust in genuinity, especially considering the majority of magic tricks ARE genuine, and viewable up close.

i used very simple misdirection as a kid, when i cheated in monopoly games. i would change cash "in plain view", for everyone to see. this would lower their guard, and allow me to just grab money from the bank.

i tried pickpocketing a friend once, just to test myself, and i was totally successful. took his wallet, and joined him back in a panicked frenzied search for it through a cafeteria, untill i gave it back. he was less amused than i was.

i also tried shoplifting as a teen, using simple misdirection in the sense that i would pick up the candy-bar, then take it with me to the fruit section or something. someone stuffing a candybar in their pocket next to the candybar shelf look like a thief.
someone stuffing a candybar in their pocket next to the watermelons and cucumbers... the image changes completely, and people no longer see the connection between the pocket, and the store items.

junkies told me how they would play w peoples expectations in a similar way, by stealing HUGE ammounts in one go. most people shoplift an item at once, to hide in their pocket. they, instead, would fill a whole basket, and simple walk through the exit with it. in order to safeguard a minimum, they would buy a token item. the cashier is busy, and is simply not curious about the basket filled w groceries. once theyre through, the cashier is busy w the next customer, and they can calmly fill the bags, and leave.

i also got away w hash during a bust, by placing the hash in the shadow of my ashtray. they brought dogs, which sniffed it out. the cops however were looking under and behind things. in their minds, hash HAS to be hidden. whatever that brown, hash-like lump was, it couldnt possibly be hash, cus it was in plain view. most likely, they never even spotted it. to my delight, i could hear them discuss what the dog was reacting to, untill they concluded it was the ashtray itself.

also, in the military i was the only guy to save my booze during a booze-raid interrupting a illegal party we had in the barracks.
while everybody else froze and confused themselves, i calmly placed the bottle right next to my leg, at such an angle it was obscured from the sarge. at the first and best sign of commotion, i hinted to the lapplander, who grabbed the bottle, and dove out the window(!) still without anybody noticing - and this inside a small room full of people.

any own experiences successes or experiments with misdirection?

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 12:58:27 AM »
Years ago, my older brother was arrested for DUI. The cops were friendly and my brother was in a good mood, so he was not handcuffed, just taken to the station to be processed. He had a bag of weed in his pocket. IT would surely be found when he was taken to jail. So, while he was in the backseat of the cop car, he hid the bag of weed in the seat. He assumed it was gone, but was relieved to not get caught with it. So he want to jail and was processed and many hours later, the same cop drove him home. In the same car. He got his weed back.

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 01:02:41 AM »
Years ago, my older brother was arrested for DUI. The cops were friendly and my brother was in a good mood, so he was not handcuffed, just taken to the station to be processed. He had a bag of weed in his pocket. IT would surely be found when he was taken to jail. So, while he was in the backseat of the cop car, he hid the bag of weed in the seat. He assumed it was gone, but was relieved to not get caught with it. So he want to jail and was processed and many hours later, the same cop drove him home. In the same car. He got his weed back.

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he deserves an award for that :I

reminds me of another busted-situation, luck this time tho, incredible luck: the cop checked my pocket, where i had 5 grams = night in jail + thousands of krones fine.
he even joked "wouldnt it suck for you to come with us now, eh? hehehehe!"
"yea yea very funny :("
then he let us go, me and a friend. couldnt believe it
checked my pocket: EMPTY
pushed my hand into it, and it untwirled, revealing the hash, hidden by a lucky, twirled up pocket :D
i laughed loudly :D
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 01:04:22 AM by ZEGH8578 »

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 01:09:40 AM »
oh, and when i was about 15 i had a boyfriend my mom didnt like. But she didnt know what he looked like. I gave him a different name, and he came over my house all the time. My mom liked him :P

And the same boy, would sneak in at night. A few times my mom came in the room. Do you know how he hid from her ? He just made sure he stood behind her at all time. He never got caught.

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 01:11:29 AM »
oh, and when i was about 15 i had a boyfriend my mom didnt like. But she didnt know what he looked like. I gave him a different name, and he came over my house all the time. My mom liked him :P

And the same boy, would sneak in at night. A few times my mom came in the room. Do you know how he hid from her ? He just made sure he stood behind her at all time. He never got caught.

:D:D:D
brilliant :D

but yes, hide-behind-things is more effective than most people think - cus irl people arent aware there is something hidden behind it.
YOU know, and YOU think "all he/she has to do is look behind, and im busted"
but people wont look behind, cus it doesnt even strike them that they should :D

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 01:17:29 AM »
 :santa:
« Last Edit: November 14, 2011, 11:29:04 PM by eris »

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 01:18:52 AM »
Zegh, reading this thread I realized - we are both sneaky bastards :D

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 01:27:20 AM »
Zegh, reading this thread I realized - we are both sneaky bastards :D

i know, i have forgotten, and thought back, and i was very sneaky.
even while i was a shy, good boy, i would steal marbles and comics from a friend.
i would also sabotage peoples homework, usually math, cus its easy to erase and write in new numbers, without making it detectable hand-writing-wise
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Re: misdirection
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 04:03:56 AM »
I once bullshitted with a teacher by saying I had already done an assignment when I hadn't. It somehow worked though, lazy teacher perhaps. :laugh:

Not a misdirection though, more of a refugee in audacity.
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Re: misdirection
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 01:52:14 PM »
I once bullshitted with a teacher by saying I had already done an assignment when I hadn't. It somehow worked though, lazy teacher perhaps. :laugh:

Not a misdirection though, more of a refugee in audacity.

i think it borderline counts! :D
a successful lie in within the realm of "mental manipulation" :D
yours was quite daring also, so, nice one! :D

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 05:15:38 PM »
Have you also considered the techniques of conversational hypnosis? A guy did a show about it.


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Re: misdirection
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 05:54:57 PM »
You cheated your friends at board games?  ::) Fucking low rent.  :thumbdn:

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 05:59:03 PM »
A lot of misdirections success has to do with confidence also.  The bigger the balls and more confident you are the more you can get away with
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Re: misdirection
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 06:10:16 PM »
Really stink at stuff like that; could never do it.

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Re: misdirection
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 06:54:01 PM »
ppk, with family as well :)

parts, not necesarily big balls per se (but thank you), but confidence in the situation. confidence in what you have learned about human behavior.

jack, conversational hypnosis? aaas in.. hypnosis!? :S