Manson relitves

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LIKE many adopted children, Matthew Roberts set about finding his biological parents with a mix of nerves and excitement.

In particular, he hoped that discovering his father's identity would help him to work out what made him the man he had become.

But nothing could have prepared him for being told his dad was... serial killer CHARLES MANSON.

Warped ... Charles Manson now
Warped ... Charles Manson now

Over a five-week period in the summer of 1969, Manson and his Family of commune followers committed a series of nine gruesome murders. Victims included pregnant actress Sharon Tate, wife of film director Roman Polanski.

Matthew, 41 - who bears a haunting resemblance to his father - sank into depression after discovering his identity.

He has since been in contact with his dad in a series of letters to his California prison and Manson has replied - each time chillingly signing off with a swastika.

Now Matthew, who was given up for adoption as a baby, has told of his horror at finding out he was the son of a monster.

Poison pen ... letter from Manson to Matthew
Poison pen ... letter from Manson to Matthew

He says: "I didn't want to believe it. I was frightened and angry. It's like finding out that Adolf Hitler is your father.

"I'm a peaceful person - trapped in the face of a monster."

Matthew grew up in Rockford, Illinois, and didn't know he was adopted until his sister told him when he was ten.

He loved his adoptive parents but always knew he was different. He says: "My parents were great people, but very conservative.

"They were products of the Fifties and I didn't relate to them. My biological parents were products of the Sixties and I take on a lot more of those characteristics."

He also reveals his adoptive father tried to discourage him from getting in contact with Manson, telling him: "Nothing good will come from this."
Letters

Matthew, who now lives in Los Angeles, began investigating his family history 12 years ago when he contacted a social services agency who located his mother, Terry, in Wisconsin.

He wrote to her straight away and their early exchanges will be familiar to adopted children everywhere.

Map ... Los Angeles
Map ... Los Angeles

She confirmed she was his mum and told him she had named him Lawrence Alexander - and that she would tell him his last name in time.

The jigsaw of his life was beginning to take shape but it was still missing a crucial piece - his father.

Terry remained tight-lipped about his identity but after Matthew pressed her for details in a string of letters, she eventually revealed the awful truth.

She said she met commune leader Manson in 1967 - two years before the infamous "Manson Family" murders in Los Angeles for which he is still in jail at the age of 75.

But back in 1967, Terry had been one of many who were transfixed by Manson's charms.

Her father had tried to chase him away when he met Terry, calling him a "white-trash biker bandit" but she found him charismatic and hypnotizing.

So she hopped on a bus with his Family and ended up in San Francisco. There she claims she was raped by Manson in a drug-fuelled orgy, after which she returned home and Matthew was born on March 22, 1968.

Cult HQ ... ranch near Death Valley where Manson Family gathered
Cult HQ ... ranch near Death Valley where Manson Family gathered

Terry always believed Manson was the father of the baby she gave up for adoption. And after seeing a picture of Matthew, her worst nightmare was confirmed.

For he is the spitting image of Manson, with the same nose, mouth, eyes and large forehead. They even have the same thick, arched eyebrows and long, thick, dark hair.

Like his father, Matthew is a songwriter and poet. He is even worried that he may have inherited his father's schizophrenia.

Matthew, now working as a DJ, recalls hearing mum Terry's bombshell: "She even said, 'You look just like him'.

"I'm not nuts but I've got a little bit of it. It's scary and upsetting. If I get worked up, my eyes get really big and that's really freaked some people out before.
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Bad sign ... another note from the killer


"I've tried to tone that down quite a bit. I don't like having that effect on people.

"I don't even like the fact that I'm big. It makes me even scarier. My hero is Gandhi. I'm an extremely non-violent, peaceful person and a vegetarian.

"I don't even kill bugs. I've had long hair all my life. I could make it go away, but I can't let the world and their fears change me." After discovering the truth, it took Matthew five years to pluck up the courage to write to his father at Corcoran State Prison in California.

Manson replied to Matthew's letter straight away and has since sent him a string of ten handwritten notes and postcards signed with the wartime Nazi symbol.
Hobo

Matthew says: "He sends me weird stuff and always signs it with his swastika. At first I was stunned and depressed. I wasn't able to speak for a day. I remember not being able to eat."

According to Matthew, the letters mainly rambled and said "crazy things" but Manson did confirm he could be his father.

In one twisted letter he wrote: "The truth is the truth. The truth hurts."


In another note Manson talked about meeting Matthew's mother. He wrote: "I remember her. We came back to LA on the super-cheap train."

And Manson - who grew up without a father figure - even compared his childhood to Matthew's.

He said: "You got the same father I got. A hobo just left on the midnight train and died, lost at sea." Then in a postcard two years ago, addressed to Matthew's birth name Lawrence Alexander, Manson sent his son his prison phone number.

But Matthew has never made the call to his dad.

He says: "There's always a subconscious block.

"What I'm worried about is that you think you're going to meet your birth mother or father and they're going to love you and welcome you with open arms. But he's not that kind of person."

Despite Manson's evil actions, Matthew confesses he now battles confused emotions towards his biological father.

He says: "If I did talk to Charlie on the phone, I would say, 'I truly understand what it's like to be you, more than anyone could ever imagine on so many levels'.

"He's my biological father - I can't help but have some kind of emotional connection. That's the hardest thing of all - feeling love for a monster who raped my mother.

"I don't want to love him, but I don't want to hate him either."


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2740414/I-traced-my-dad-and-discovered-he-is-Charles-Manson.html#ixzz0YIHEkERV

How would you free about this Imagine how people want revenge or just how shiity you'll feel

[Callaway]

If Manson had been my father, I'm not sure I would have wanted to know.

['andersom']

If Manson had been my father, I'm not sure I would have wanted to know.

He did not know when he wanted to find out of course.

And why would he even think about that possibility?

I mean, how bad can it be. All kinds of assumptions can be made, but pondering on your biological dad to be a serial killer? Not something that comes to mind right away.

I know two adults who are the result of rape/taking advantage of a low functioning girl. I've heard their ponderings about what their dads could be like. None of the two is thinking about something as horrid as Manson. OK, we have not got serial killers like that in our history, but still. Not something you'd imagine to be true.

[Phlexor]

Did you see the guy? How could he not know?

Do you wonder if anyone ever said he looked like manson beforehand?

[P7PSP]

  That would be a fucked up thing to learn.

[Icequeen]

Don't think I'd have wanted to know.

[El]

Did you see the guy? How could he not know?

Do you wonder if anyone ever said he looked like manson beforehand?

I have an ex who, if I am remembering right, looked like charles manson when his hair was kind of a middle-long length, and his father did, too.  The resemblence got joked about.  There was no assumption that there was any relation.

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Hitler still has relives on Long Island

[Yuri Bezmenov]

From what I've heard, his son is now in a legal fight for his remains.

[Lestat]

Well IMO giving him a decent burial, it might help his son lay some nasty ghosts from the past to rest. And at least, now he is worm food, he can't do any more physical harm. Nasty surprise though to get after going to look for your birth parents...finding out one of them is charles fucking manson.

Although I did once date a woman who was prison pen-pal to Tim McVeigh. Surprised me a little, my stalker and ex gf...McVeigh's pen pal when he was inside...but it didn't change anything between us, or change the fact that I still love her to pieces, that I care deeply about her, and that I'd go to the ends of the earth for her in need.

She isn't  a psycho, terrorist or anything like that, she is a lovely woman, not a people person, but she is classically autistic (and classy autistic too for that matter...this lady, 'heretic' as she used to sign herself on AFF, she oozes class like a flamethrower oozes napalm. Although the flamer has nothing on how damn hot she is in fact its positively icy compared to the way her lips quirk up at the sides putting an adorable little smile on her face as she sleeps.)

Wonderful lady, very, very special to and means a lot to me. It did surprise me a fair bit though that she was writing McVeigh inside (him inside that is, to the best of my knowledge she has never been banged up, and doesn't seem the type likely to either. Not unless they make beauty a crime at least Because she is, really elegant, stylish, refined and classy as hell and she has some of that kinda uncanny 'fountain of youth' to her looks, that one sees in autistic people sometimes, particularly female autistics, it seems (in my experience at least). Not like my old schoolfriend laura, who looks about 12-13 when she is in fact, older than I am, but my ex gf/stalker is I think, now either 50 or 51 and she could easily pass for 20-25 years younger without makeup, with if, if she ever used it in the first place (I don't think she does, it isn't really something thats in keeping with her overall personality, what you see is what you get, and she makes no bones about it, or about anything else, ever, for that matter) but if she did I bet she could pass for early 20s to mid 20s quite easily.

When she told me she used to write McVeigh, as his pen-pal though, that did surprise me. Definitely one MOST unusual girl. In a good way, a beautiful and special way. But unusual as hell.