Away/Back thread

[Kaelyrhn]

You stick up your arse.

Too late. I said it first.

Now fuck off.

Well if you like going first...After you.

[Al Swearegen]

You stick up your arse.

Too late. I said it first.

Now fuck off.

Well if you like going first...After you.

Ladies first?

Meh. I think that nothing more is to be gained out of this.

Again Ren I do not think you acted or behaved in a manner which could have or should have been better or different.

[Al Swearegen]

Again Ren I do not think you acted or behaved in a manner which could have or should have been better or different.

But I could have? In what way? How might have I acted or behaved better?

I could go over the same ground here and post up examples that I believe make a case for things and this will not do you, Ren, the board or me any benefit and nor will it change your mind or ren's or the board's or my mind on anything. Happy letting sleeping dogs lie on this one.
My efforts in saying what i was saying was purely to try to ease the conscience of Ren over what I feel she ought not be troubled by.

[renaeden]

Well this:

Something about callously telling her to go to the airport to pick up some dear intimate friend of yours while she (Renaeden) was/is still down and depressed because of how you treated her?

I have to say did suck. I am glad that I said no to it and that it did not happen right then. I was still too sore, I still wanted our relationship to work at that time.

And the whole empathy thing, that happened too. But we have talked and talked and talked all this stuff through, we are doing ok now imo.

[Kaelyrhn]

I could go over the same ground here and post up examples that I believe make a case for things and this will not do you, Ren, the board or me any benefit and nor will it change your mind or ren's or the board's or my mind on anything. Happy letting sleeping dogs lie on this one.
My efforts in saying what i was saying was purely to try to ease the conscience of Ren over what I feel she ought not be troubled by.

I deleted my post to that (before your post appeared). It was ill-advised to even ask it.

[Al Swearegen]

I could go over the same ground here and post up examples that I believe make a case for things and this will not do you, Ren, the board or me any benefit and nor will it change your mind or ren's or the board's or my mind on anything. Happy letting sleeping dogs lie on this one.
My efforts in saying what i was saying was purely to try to ease the conscience of Ren over what I feel she ought not be troubled by.

I deleted my post to that (before your post appeared). It was ill-advised to even ask it.

Cool.

['Butterflies']

Welcome back Celidh. Your private life with Ren is none of my business, so I just hope the drama dies down, and that youre happy on the site.

[Adam]

Am wondering if it was my initial reaction to GA's transitioning that made what she did "unacceptable". If I had been completely fine with it, still living with her and continuing our marriage, would that make it more acceptable.

Has anyone actually replied to this? I'd be interested to see the response too

Sure, GA did some things she shouldn't have done (ie asking ren to pick up her gf), but who hasn't done stupid things before, or said somethign without realising how it would affect the other person?

[Squidusa]

Oh god, not this wanker again. 

If the not-so-forever leaving trend hold up, brace for TCO's return and the subsequent dramacaust around May 2012.

Oh fucking hell.

[Calavera]

Sure, GA did some things she shouldn't have done (ie asking ren to pick up her gf), but who hasn't done stupid things before, or said somethign without realising how it would affect the other person?

Speaking for myself.

When/if I do something stupid or unintentionally callous against a loved one, and I become aware of it, I make sure I be accountable and think less selfishly so I may act accordingly. I don't have a problem apologizing and making up for the mistake in some way when I do something harmful against someone else I love and care about. So apologize (in action specifically) is what I do.

One reason why it's so relatively easy for me (and others) to do the above is that because I don't think of myself as some special being who owns this universe and everything in it. I'm not the man of the world, I'm just a man among many in this world.

I'm sure a lot of members are the same way.

Does this answer your question and make you see something from my perspective?

[Kaelyrhn]

Sure, GA did some things she shouldn't have done (ie asking ren to pick up her gf),

Clarification; not my girlfriend, just a friend I was emotionally close to.

but who hasn't done stupid things before, or said somethign without realising how it would affect the other person?

Isn't that a trait of Aspergers?

When/if I do something stupid or unintentionally callous against a loved one, and I become aware of it, I make sure I be accountable and think less selfishly so I may act accordingly. I don't have a problem apologizing and making up for the mistake in some way when I do something harmful against someone else I love and care about. So apologize (in action specifically) is what I do.

One reason why it's so relatively easy for me (and others) to do the above is that because I don't think of myself as some special being who owns this universe and everything in it. I'm not the man of the world, I'm just a man among many in this world.

I'm sure a lot of members are the same way.

WTF? You think that I believe myself to be some special being? What the...I don't..Huh?

I have to ask, are you assuming that I haven't made amends with renaeden? Are you assuming that we haven't discussed it at length?

Or should I make some grand public gesture for your amusement oh Caesar?

The fact you think an apology is necessary from either of us about the situation is absurd... I- Actually you know, fuck this shit. Go search through old threads and find my old posts, I've owned up to the way I acted, I've made amends to renaeden in private. I don't need to do so again for your amusement.

So as I said, good day sir.

Does this answer your question and make you see something from my perspective?

Yeah the perspective of a total whackjob.

[ProfessorFarnsworth]

Oh god, not this wanker again. 

If the not-so-forever leaving trend hold up, brace for TCO's return and the subsequent dramacaust around May 2012.

Oh fucking hell.

Yes, and while we're at it, we might as well invite Razor and Meadow back too and fuel it into a dramapocalypse.

[midlifeaspie]

Oh good!  This is happening again.

[Squidusa]

Oh god, not this wanker again. 

If the not-so-forever leaving trend hold up, brace for TCO's return and the subsequent dramacaust around May 2012.

Oh fucking hell.

Yes, and while we're at it, we might as well invite Razor and Meadow back too and fuel it into a dramapocalypse.

Although actually Razor's ok , maybe I can retry what I did last time , and make him ful on cyber with me?

[Scrapheap]

Oh god, not this wanker again. 

He used to be a wanker.

He's wankless now or something.