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Los Alamos
« on: June 30, 2011, 04:57:30 PM »
Los Alamos nuclear lab under siege from wildfire
By P. SOLOMON BANDA and SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN, Associated Press


A wildfire burning near the desert birthplace of the atomic bomb advanced on the Los Alamos laboratory and thousands of outdoor drums of plutonium-contaminated waste Tuesday as authorities stepped up efforts to protect the site and monitor the air for radiation.

Officials at the nation's premier nuclear weapons lab gave assurances that dangerous materials were safely stored and capable of withstanding flames from the 93-square-mile fire, which as of midday was as close as 50 feet from the grounds.

A small patch of land at the laboratory caught fire Monday before firefighters quickly put it out. Teams were on high alert to pounce on any new blazes and spent the day removing brush and low-hanging tree limbs from the lab's perimeter.

"We are throwing absolutely everything at this that we got," Democratic Sen. Tom Udall of New Mexico said in Los Alamos.

The fire has forced the evacuation of the entire city of Los Alamos, population 11,000, cast giant plumes of smoke over the region and raised fears among nuclear watchdogs that it will reach as many as 30,000 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste.

"The concern is that these drums will get so hot that they'll burst. That would put this toxic material into the plume. It's a concern for everybody," said Joni Arends, executive director of the Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, an anti-nuclear group.

Arends' organiziation also worried that the fire could stir up nuclear-contaminated soil on lab property where experiments were conducted years ago. Burrowing animals have brought that contamination to the surface, she said.

Lab officials said there was very little risk of the fire reaching the drums of low-level nuclear waste, since the flames would have to jump through canyons first. Officials also stood ready to coat the drums with fire-resistant foam if the blaze got too close.

Lab spokeswoman Lisa Rosendorf said the drums contain Cold War-era waste that the lab sends away in weekly shipments for storage. She said the drums were on a paved area with few trees nearby. As of midday Tuesday, the flames were about two miles from the material.

"These drums are designed to a safety standard that would withstand a wildland fire worse than this one," Rosendorf said.

Los Alamos employs about 15,000 people, covers more than 36 square miles, includes about 2,000 buildings at nearly four dozen sites and plays a vital role in the nation's nuclear program.

The lab was created during World War II as part of the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb. It produced the weapons that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In the decades since, the lab has evolved into a major scientific and nuclear research facility. It stockpiles aging atomic materials, tests warheads, produces triggers for nuclear weapons and operates supercomputers and particle accelerators.

It also conducts research on such things as climate change and the development of a scanner for airports to detect explosive liquids. The lab's supercomputer was used in designing an HIV vaccine.

Lab officials gave assurances that buildings housing key research and scientific facilities were safe because they have been fireproofed over the years, especially since a 2000 blaze that raged through the area but caused no damage to the lab. Trees and brush were thinned over the past several years, and key buildings were surrounded with gravel to keep flames at bay.

Many of the buildings were also constructed to meet strict standards for nuclear safety, and aggressive wildfires were taken into account, lab spokesman Kevin Roark said.

"We'll pre-treat with foam if necessary, but we really want the buildings to stand on their own for the most part. That is exactly how they've been designed. Especially the ones holding anything that is of high value or high risk," said Deputy Los Alamos County Fire Chief Mike Thompson.

Teams from the National Nuclear Security Administration's Radiological Assistance Program were headed to the scene to help assess any hazards.

Lab officials said they were closely watching at least 60 air monitors for radiation and other hazards. The New Mexico Environment Department was also monitoring the air, and Udall said he asked the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to do the same.

The lab has been shut down all week because of the fire, but authorities said the disruption is unlikely to affect any key experiments. The lab will be closed at least through Wednesday.

The wildfire has destroyed 30 structures near Los Alamos, stirring memories of a devastating blaze in May 2000 that wrecked hundreds of homes and other buildings. About 12,500 residents in and around Los Alamos have been evacuated, an orderly exit that didn't even cause a traffic accident.

Investigators do not know what sparked the fire, although suspicion has fallen on downed power lines.

The streets of Los Alamos were empty Tuesday with the exception of emergency vehicles and National Guard Humvees. There were signs that homeowners had left prepared: Propane bottles were placed at the front of driveways and cars were left in the middle of parking lots, away from anything flammable.

Some residents decided to wait out the fire, including Mark Smith, a chemical engineer at Los Alamos. He said he was not worried about flames reaching the lab's sensitive materials.

"The risk of exposure is so small," he said. "I wouldn't sit here and inhale plutonium. I may be crazy, but I'm not dumb."

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Associated Press Writer Barry Massey contributed to this report from Santa Fe, N.M.



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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 04:58:18 PM »
CBS News)  The government sent a plane equipped with radiation monitors over the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory Wednesday as a 110-square-mile wildfire burned at its doorstep, putting thousands of scientific experiments on hold for days, the Associated Press reports. No radiation was found in the air.


CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers reports that officials there say there was nothing to worry about anyways.


With fire burning just a few miles away, Los Alamos National Laboratory spokesman Terry Wallace pointed out Area G. It's there that 10,000 fifty-five gallon drums filled with low level radioactive material are stored.


"The bulk of the drums there truly are things like notes that are contaminated, contaminated gloves," Wallace says.


Those drums are in outdoor domes made of reinforced steel covered with a plasticized fire retardant. But lab officials insist this site and two others containing additional radioactive materials are safe. More radioactive waste is stored in concrete tubes buried deep in the ground; plutonium and uranium are stored in vaults inside hardened concrete buildings.


Los Alamos fire stokes fear of radioactive smoke

Air quality tests over the sprawling facility show no traces of radiation, but critics say no one really knows what would happen if Area G caught fire. Los Alamos officials refuse to consider a worst case scenario involving radiation release.


"I don't believe there is any specific danger to the public from our activities at Los Alamos. The danger is from that fire on the mountain" says Carl Beard, Los Alamos operations director.


Folks who live in the nearby town of Los Alamos like Denise Lane stand by the lab.


"Those people who work there are my neighbors. They live next door to me. I know who they are," Lane says.


The wind picked up a bit today, but fortunately it is now taking the fire away from Los Alamos.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/2...eoMetaInfo


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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 04:59:01 PM »
The wildfire in New Mexico has become the highest priority fire in the U.S. now, as the flames drawing closer to Los Alamos national nuclear lab have engulfed at least 61,000 acres of the Santa Fe National Forest with massive expansion of smoke witnessed.

The main blaze sparked a smaller fire on the lab site itself, but it was quickly extinguished, according to fire crew.

Fire crew have begun burning a 4-mile-long barrier in an attempt to prevent the blaze from reaching the heart of the lab.

The wildfire was first sparked on June 26 near Jemez Ranger District in the Santa Fe National Forest.

If the wildfire expands another 3.5 miles, it could overtake an area where 30,000 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste are being stored above ground.

The plant is now backtracking and admitting the existence of the gallons of dangerous waste, which was previously denied.

The drums contain cleanup from Cold War-era waste according to Lisa Rosendorf of the Los Alamos, while the Los Alamos Study Group has claimed that the waste is much newer than that, reports RT.

The plant, which is believed to have tested more nuclear weapons than any other facility in the world, is thought to be cranking out more nukes than ever.

Los Alamos Lab in New Mexico is one of the largest employers in northern New Mexico with about 9,000 employees. The lab was founded during World War II to develop the first nuclear weapons.

Officials at the premier US nuclear-weapons lab tried to assure the public saying that dangerous materials were safely stored and capable of withstanding flames.

The laboratory released a statement midday Wednesday stating,

"Despite no wildfire currently on Los Alamos Laboratory property, the Laboratory has established a network of seven high-volume air samplers along the southern, northern and eastern boundaries of Laboratory property to verify that hazardous materials are not leaving the Laboratory in smoke from the fire."

Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) in New Mexico will remain closed through Thursday, June 30, as the Las Conchas Fire is threatening the nuclear lab.

Meanwhile, some U.S. nuclear officials have been downplaying concerns about two nuclear power plants in Nebraska that are being threatened by flooding.

Water from the Missouri River has surrounded the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Station while floodwaters have been creeping closer to the Cooper Nuclear Power Station, reported VOA News. The floodwaters were of concern for potentially knocking out the plants' electric power supply, allowing the nuclear materials to overheat, and subsequently causing a meltdown.

The officials that oversee both power plants have asserted that a meltdown will not occur at either facility. There are sufficient back-up systems to make sure that the tragedy at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant will not be repeated.

The threats of nuclear power plants meltdown arose amidst the growing concerns over the Fukushima nuclear power meltdown. The world was just about to turn to the U.S., revealing the nation's unpreparedness for such hazards.

United States nuclear officials say that exhaustive review of safety standards and procedures have been conducted across American nuclear power plants and rectors since the March earthquake and tsunami that caused 1, 2 and three reactors at the Fukushima nuclear power plant to go into meltdown.

There are 104 nuclear reactors that operate in the United States which supply 20% of the nation's electricity.

Los Alamos has now inevitably intensified the attention on nuclear safety in the United States which was refocused by the case in Fukushima.

Lessons need to be learned from the nuclear meltdown that will devastate the Japanese economy for decades to come. The US is said to have been in serious trouble before Fukushima and have done very little to alleviate fears after. The raging fires in Los Alamos may prove whether the nuke labs in this nation are truly fireproof. Fukushima has been the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind, and this time, we hope that Los Alamos will not renew the record.

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 06:26:38 PM »
I would think they planned for a lot worse than this
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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 06:48:28 PM »
I would think they planned for a lot worse than this
Only read the first article, but it reads like they may have. Was curious to see the 'thousands of outdoor drums'. Google mapped it; huge facility, though the full zoom isn't so detailed by usual Google map standards. Not sure if that's intentional.

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 06:52:09 PM »
I would think they planned for a lot worse than this
Only read the first article, but it reads like they may have. Was curious to see the 'thousands of outdoor drums'. Google mapped it; huge facility, though the full zoom isn't so detailed by usual Google map standards. Not sure if that's intentional.
over an area like that it probably is intentional

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 06:54:14 PM »
Most likely, yes.

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 11:58:38 AM »
google is a whore

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 11:59:40 AM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

'People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.'
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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 12:01:44 PM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price

google is a cheap skanky toothless whore, with ugly long pink nails, a bad cough, hair extensions and crabs...

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 12:31:01 PM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price

google is a cheap skanky toothless whore, with ugly long pink nails, a bad cough, hair extensions and crabs...

Yeah, but you'd still stick your dick into that shit!!  :missionary:   :evillaugh:

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 12:50:44 PM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price

google is a cheap skanky toothless whore, with ugly long pink nails, a bad cough, hair extensions and crabs...

Yeah, but you'd still stick your dick into that shit!!  :missionary:   :evillaugh:

dont judge me :(

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 12:57:17 PM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price

google is a cheap skanky toothless whore, with ugly long pink nails, a bad cough, hair extensions and crabs...

Yeah, but you'd still stick your dick into that shit!!  :missionary:   :evillaugh:

dont judge me :(

I wasn't judging you, I was just sayin that you'd hit that shit.  :orly:

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2011, 08:19:25 PM »
google is a whore

Everyone is it's just a matter of price

google is a cheap skanky toothless whore, with ugly long pink nails, a bad cough, hair extensions and crabs...
and she's got the jack. :laugh:

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Re: Los Alamos
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2011, 09:15:35 PM »
Back to those poisonous drums - I'd have thought they would have buried that shit long ago under 10 feet of concrete, rather than leave it out in the open.