Kate chose not to obey

[Adam]

But you are acting a retard.

How does it bully men? It's not adding privileges, it's making something as horrible as rape in marriage illegal. To me, that actually seems fair.

Its contributing to the turd wave feminism brainwashing. The liberal agenda, and a brave new world of stupidity. Fuck off, shithead.

So we should ignore all instances of REAL sexism, just becuase some extreme feminists accuse men of sexism unjustly?

[RageBeoulve]

How is making martial rape illegal akin to giving privileges to "womyn"?

Call me a fuckface all you want, but try to not like a retard about this.

Its not acceptable and anyone with a brain knows it, asshole. Making an issue out of this is an excuse to bully men, and i'm SICK OF IT. And sure, i'll "try to not like a retard" you fucking retard.

Rage, you do realise you are arguing WITH men over this? I hardly think either me or schleed are looking for excuses to bully men. And as schleed has already said - this is not about giving privileges to anyone. I can't believe you quoted a link to an article about changing the law to recognise marital rape and tried to claim it was about petty privileges

It IS! Oh my god, dude! What the fuck is wrong with you people? Nobody who does not belong in prison thinks its okay to rape women(or men)! Nobody in their right fucking mind thinks its okay to walk into a daycare and skullfuck a bunch of babies! Nobody with a scrap of human decency thinks its okay to shoot everyone in a gas station!

The fuck is wrong with you? I propose we pass a law, making it illegal to cum on a turtles face. That's animal cruelty, and really nasty. ALL IN FAVOR? I mean seriously dude, wake up and smell the fucking AGENDA.

[RageBeoulve]

But you are acting a retard.

How does it bully men? It's not adding privileges, it's making something as horrible as rape in marriage illegal. To me, that actually seems fair.

Its contributing to the turd wave feminism brainwashing. The liberal agenda, and a brave new world of stupidity. Fuck off, shithead.

So we should ignore all instances of REAL sexism, just becuase some extreme feminists accuse men of sexism unjustly?

No, but those assholes get dealt with man. Why do you feel the need to build a fucking army every time some bitch queefs? Jesus Christ.

[Adam]

Les this was hardly an isolated example of one asshole judge, was it?

[Beardy McFuckface]

But you are acting a retard.

How does it bully men? It's not adding privileges, it's making something as horrible as rape in marriage illegal. To me, that actually seems fair.

Its contributing to the turd wave feminism brainwashing. The liberal agenda, and a brave new world of stupidity. Fuck off, shithead.

That's a whole web of strawmans right there.

Just because I believe martial rape should be made illegal, does not mean I'm brainwashed by some liberal agenda.

If you want a belter of a strawman, I can say you're advocating martial rape.

[RageBeoulve]

Legislating common fucking sense, promotes and enables BIGGER GOVERNMENT. BIGGER GOVERNMENT = LESS FREEDOM. LESS FREEDOM LEADS TO FACISM, NOT THE SOCIALIST UTOPIA YOU ENVISION. PLEASE, UNFUCK YOURSELF.

[Adam]

Rage, rape isn't just the violent stranger-jumps-out-of-a-bush-and-rapes-someone type rape. And, believe me, there are a LOT of dodgy views surrounding rape where the victim knows her rapists etc. Look at the kind of things people say about women who dress sluttily or were drunk at the time. Marital rape is still one of those where attitudes are actually pretty bad. Improving yes, but it's not as simple as you make out with your "everyone who isn't in prison is against rape"

And regarding your second comment, I wasn't aware that I did. In fact I think this is the first argument I've had about sexism on here. And that, only after Les made some pretty strange comments about women in Iraq and then bumped up an old post of mine from about two years ago to disagree with me about traditional marriage. I got the feeling it was an issue, so made a callout, which is continuing.

What is your problem with this?

[Beardy McFuckface]

Not everyone has common sense, Rage. You're putting too much faith in humanity.

[RageBeoulve]

But you are acting a retard.

How does it bully men? It's not adding privileges, it's making something as horrible as rape in marriage illegal. To me, that actually seems fair.

Its contributing to the turd wave feminism brainwashing. The liberal agenda, and a brave new world of stupidity. Fuck off, shithead.

That's a whole web of strawmans right there.

Just because I believe martial rape should be made illegal, does not mean I'm brainwashed by some liberal agenda.

If you want a belter of a strawman, I can say you're advocating martial rape.

Just because I believe martial rape should be made illegal

It does. It means you're in favor of more laws, bigger government, and being a fucking overgrown baby who can't think for himself. Unwitting mouthpiece of the liberal agenda. You are a fucking idiot.

[Adam]

Legislating common fucking sense, promotes and enables BIGGER GOVERNMENT. BIGGER GOVERNMENT = LESS FREEDOM. LESS FREEDOM LEADS TO FACISM, NOT THE SOCIALIST UTOPIA YOU ENVISION. PLEASE, UNFUCK YOURSELF.

Oh ok, I get what this is about the. It's about your obsession. For god's sake. Can we please have a discussion like grown ups, without bringing Obama-fascist-communist-nazi-comspiracy theorist shit into it.

[Al Swearegen]

It should have been. There were laws in place for it. Was it legal to rape as you suggested or were judges just not prosecuting.

I know that there are many situations today where people have laws to protect them BUT if they are trying to take on the Police, or the Government or some rich Business they are similarly ignored. It does not mean that the company or the police acted lawfully in what they got away with.

Similarly in things such as false accusations against men, it has been very hard for men to prove a negative. "I did not rape her" statements can only go so far.
Of course such false statements are damaging not only to men but against actual victims of rape if or when they are found out to be false.
It does not mean that there is laws against making false rape claims. It just means that they are rarely prosecuted and that men faced with such accusations face an uphill battle against credibility

[Adam]

By your logic, we should be done with ALL laws then. Are you an anarchist?

[RageBeoulve]

Not everyone has common sense, Rage. You're putting too much faith in humanity.

Nobody is born with common sense, Schleed. You're putting too much faith in a "system", and not enough in hard work and a lot of mistakes.

[Beardy McFuckface]

Yet you're saying people should basically rely on common sense, which is MUCH worse since as you said:

Nobody is born with common sense

[RageBeoulve]

Legislating common fucking sense, promotes and enables BIGGER GOVERNMENT. BIGGER GOVERNMENT = LESS FREEDOM. LESS FREEDOM LEADS TO FACISM, NOT THE SOCIALIST UTOPIA YOU ENVISION. PLEASE, UNFUCK YOURSELF.

Oh ok, I get what this is about the. It's about your obsession. For god's sake. Can we please have a discussion like grown ups, without bringing Obama-fascist-communist-nazi-comspiracy theorist shit into it.

Its not a conspiracy theory, its truth. When did I mention Obama, communism, Nazi Germany, or any "theories" at all. Spoiler: I didn't. You have it in your head that i'm biased, but you're projecting, soaf.

By your logic, we should be done with ALL laws then. Are you an anarchist?

Basic laws are enough. Don't kill anyone, don't take things that don't belong to you, etc. By your logic, THIS is our future, Soaf.




I will oppose a fucking safety net so detailed that nobody has to think about anything until the day I die. Please, stop being so stupid.