People's views regarding transpeople

[odeon]

There was two blank lines after my reply to him. I just didn't quote you afterwards.

I'm just going into philosophy here and seriously questioning you. Will you not humour me? This is not about arguing. Should I start a thread for this instead?
You brought up the subject, and that happens to be another topic I like talking about.

Finish the callout with Al first. If there is something left from your arguments, or you, then by all means start a callout. Just make sure that you don't revive the topics you already lost against Al because that's just, well, tiresome.

[Al Swearegen]

How is my preferring definitions I think are unambiguous the same as fighting dirty? How is that the same as attacking someone's gender?

Oh, and your inability to give a straight answer to the simple Mowgli question and instead qualifying everything ad nauseum sounds very PC to me.

Nope. The further qualifications are to remove ambiguity, and your simplified definitions, by the nature of simplification, are imprecise.

Beyond that, it's about subtext. So long as you refuse to acknowledge such a thing, we will never come to agreement.
That said she will have a go at it. She dresses up silly notions to make them almost look legitimate though and that is something Hadron srives for but doesn't come close to doing.

And finally, I suspect that nothing I can say here would make you change your opinions re me and what I'm saying. You tend to go after me and Callaway more often than not, and this is not an exception.

Yep. I often disagree with both of your stances on things. I also find your communication styles limiting and unpleasant. Hence, more conflict.

That and the fact that you and Hadron are contrary in most discussions here and take the path less traveled in discussions.
The big difference is that Hadron looks like he confuses himself when he does it. You do it rather a lot better.
I think you do it to shit-stir and you like the intellectual exercise of taking a strong opposition to things. I personally find it interesting and like watching you come in to play.

Hadron does it with everyone. Pyraxis is more selective so as a shit-stirrer she is rather limited. She doesn't like me or Callaway and it shows. I'd be more impressed if she did the same with others and even more so if she had a leg to stand on.

Yes but Hadron for all his ego stoking as to being intellectual is fucking hopeless.
You are right about Pyraxis being selective who she targets. You are right about not having a leg to stand on but then that comes with shit-stirring. She does manage to dress up a silly notion and pads it well enough to almost pass it for a clever idea. This is something Hadron tries for and fails miserably at. That she doesn't manage it is neither here nor there. I think she does very well. End result of a dressed up silly notion is under scrutiny it will show itself as silly, but I find it interesting how she works this. She is trying to be provocative.

[Rissy]

Lol~ But I did agree with you Al. I'm not going to hide what I think. Most of your objection to me is misunderstanding. I speak my mind and accept that I'm prone to error. I don't accept untrue criticism though.

[odeon]

How is my preferring definitions I think are unambiguous the same as fighting dirty? How is that the same as attacking someone's gender?

Oh, and your inability to give a straight answer to the simple Mowgli question and instead qualifying everything ad nauseum sounds very PC to me.

Nope. The further qualifications are to remove ambiguity, and your simplified definitions, by the nature of simplification, are imprecise.

Beyond that, it's about subtext. So long as you refuse to acknowledge such a thing, we will never come to agreement.
That said she will have a go at it. She dresses up silly notions to make them almost look legitimate though and that is something Hadron srives for but doesn't come close to doing.

And finally, I suspect that nothing I can say here would make you change your opinions re me and what I'm saying. You tend to go after me and Callaway more often than not, and this is not an exception.

Yep. I often disagree with both of your stances on things. I also find your communication styles limiting and unpleasant. Hence, more conflict.

That and the fact that you and Hadron are contrary in most discussions here and take the path less traveled in discussions.
The big difference is that Hadron looks like he confuses himself when he does it. You do it rather a lot better.
I think you do it to shit-stir and you like the intellectual exercise of taking a strong opposition to things. I personally find it interesting and like watching you come in to play.

Hadron does it with everyone. Pyraxis is more selective so as a shit-stirrer she is rather limited. She doesn't like me or Callaway and it shows. I'd be more impressed if she did the same with others and even more so if she had a leg to stand on.

Yes but Hadron for all his ego stoking as to being intellectual is fucking hopeless.
You are right about Pyraxis being selective who she targets. You are right about not having a leg to stand on but then that comes with shit-stirring. She does manage to dress up a silly notion and pads it well enough to almost pass it for a clever idea. This is something Hadron tries for and fails miserably at. That she doesn't manage it is neither here nor there. I think she does very well. End result of a dressed up silly notion is under scrutiny it will show itself as silly, but I find it interesting how she works this. She is trying to be provocative.

She is trying to, yes, but it hurts her credibility and in the end she is nothing more than a shit-stirrer.

[odeon]

From Sir Les's callout:

I only came hear judging odeon. And I'm constantly making judgements to understand people.

Moving goalposts again.

[Squidusa]

Odeon I hope this isn't too personal a question , if it is just say and I'll delete and apologise if needs be.

If one of your children decided they were trans (obviously when they are much older) , and wanted you to refer them as the opposite gender , would you refer to them as their desired gender?

I'm not attempting to bring emotions into this i'm just  genuinely curious.  

[RageBeoulve]

You guys are so gay. 

[Squidusa]

You guys are so gay. 

My sides are split with your sheer comic wit.

(OMG IT RHYMED  )

[RageBeoulve]

You guys are so gay. 

My sides are split with your sheer comic wit.

(OMG IT RHYMED  )

Gayness reaching critical mass. 

[Squidusa]

You guys are so gay. 

My sides are split with your sheer comic wit.

(OMG IT RHYMED  )

Gayness reaching critical mass. 

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,17194.0.html

^ THAT is gay. 

[odeon]

Odeon I hope this isn't too personal a question , if it is just say and I'll delete and apologise if needs be.

If one of your children decided they were trans (obviously when they are much older) , and wanted you to refer them as the opposite gender , would you refer to them as their desired gender?

I'm not attempting to bring emotions into this i'm just  genuinely curious.  

Excellent question.

I honestly don't know. I would probably try but I doubt it would be easy.

[Squidusa]

Odeon I hope this isn't too personal a question , if it is just say and I'll delete and apologise if needs be.

If one of your children decided they were trans (obviously when they are much older) , and wanted you to refer them as the opposite gender , would you refer to them as their desired gender?

I'm not attempting to bring emotions into this i'm just  genuinely curious.  

Excellent question.

I honestly don't know. I would probably try but I doubt it would be easy.

Ok thanks for answering.

[odeon]

I guess it's something I will only find out if it happens.

[benjimanbreeg]

I guess it's something I will only find out if it happens.

Just bring 'em up properly and you needn't worry 

[Celticgoddess]

Odeon I hope this isn't too personal a question , if it is just say and I'll delete and apologise if needs be.

If one of your children decided they were trans (obviously when they are much older) , and wanted you to refer them as the opposite gender , would you refer to them as their desired gender?

I'm not attempting to bring emotions into this i'm just  genuinely curious.  

Excellent question.

I honestly don't know. I would probably try but I doubt it would be easy.

Interesting question and good on ya for an honest answer, Odeon.