The right to bear arms

[Scrapheap]

It pisses me off that we can have guns, but absinthe is illegal and the drinking age is 21. The US really isn't that free. Most countries allow their citizens to drink at 18. At least I turn 21 in a little less than 2 months and can get some absinthe when I go to Australia, though. 

I can agree with you on that one!!

[QuirkyCarla]

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I wasn't referring to you in my post. I was referring mainly to this post:

You're passing the task of armed protection onto mercenaries (Police). If you're dumb enough to do that, you deserve to be bullied by those whom you have empowered.

To clarify my post, I wasn't calling YOU dumb I was calling your ACTIONS dumb. There's a difference.
I simply think that when people do dumb things, the need to suffer the consequences. Pain is a great teacher.


To illistrate my point, think of every type of prohibition that has been tried.

Prohibition of Alcohol = made orginised crime entrenched and wealthy.

Prohibition of Pot= made whoever could grow and sell it wealthy

Prohibition of Cocaine= made Columbian street thugs wealthier than kings

Prohibition of Abortion (Romania) = created massive population of orphans who when they became teenagers, created massive crime wave that toppled government.

Prohibition (extreme taxation) of Tobacco= Making Canadian smugglers rich by selling cheap (tax free) ciggarets in US.


Is anyone else seeing a pattern here?? ANYONE??  Bueller??? Bueller???

How are my ACTIONS dumb if I'm just stating my OPINION? You act as if I went out and banned all guns myself or something. 

[QuirkyCarla]

It pisses me off that we can have guns, but absinthe is illegal and the drinking age is 21. The US really isn't that free. Most countries allow their citizens to drink at 18. At least I turn 21 in a little less than 2 months and can get some absinthe when I go to Australia, though. 

I can agree with you on that one!!

At least we agree on something. 

[odeon]

How are my ACTIONS dumb if I'm just stating my OPINION?

It was incredibly dumb of you to state your opinion.

[odeon]

i didn't realize that we were talking about anarchism.
now i am completely on board.

We didn't exactly talk about anarchism, but on the other hand, yes, I think modern "democracy" actually is a fraud. It's not the will of the people that is brought out, it's the will of politicians and buinessmen.

We are mostly in agreement on this. Problem is, we don't have a viable alternative. It's easier to sell the concept of democracy to the masses, however, since it gives them the illusion of freedom.

[Litigious]

It pisses me off that we can have guns, but absinthe is illegal and the drinking age is 21. The US really isn't that free. Most countries allow their citizens to drink at 18. At least I turn 21 in a little less than 2 months and can get some absinthe when I go to Australia, though. 

It's 18 to drink in a restaurant or bar in Sweden, if I'm not mistaken, but it's 20 to buy alcohol in liquor stores. The state has a liquor store monopoly here, despite the fact that the EU has stated it illegal to have state monopolys on alcohol.

But it's no problem at all to get alcohol or drugs illegaly in Sweden. Any kid can get hold of booze or ecstasy if he wants to.

In Greece, there is no age limit at all. Haven't seen any drunken kids in bars there, though. 

[Litigious]

We are mostly in agreement on this. Problem is, we don't have a viable alternative. It's easier to sell the concept of democracy to the masses, however, since it gives them the illusion of freedom.

Aspie dictatorship. 

[odeon]

We are mostly in agreement on this. Problem is, we don't have a viable alternative. It's easier to sell the concept of democracy to the masses, however, since it gives them the illusion of freedom.

Aspie dictatorship. 

You've got my vote on that... erm, right. Can we vote on dictatorship?

[Litigious]

Yes. Once. Like the Germans did. You can only vote on me, of course. 

[odeon]

I think we'll have a civil war before long.

[Litigious]

 

[Leto729]

Is Sweden that volatile.

[Litigious]

It might be if Black Bart of the Aspie Elite came to power. 

[Litigious]

The state has a liquor store monopoly here, despite the fact that the EU has stated it illegal to have state monopolys on alcohol.

To be serious again: This is just one proof that the state is criminal. Which citizen could act like this? But the state can do it, because the EU won't start a war or even an economic boycott of Sweden for breaking the union's laws, when it's "just" breaking the law against state liquor monopolies. The state can do whatever it pleases, as long as no stronger state/s or overstate organisation/s will act and stop it. Like criminals do. As long as the cops or other criminals don't stop them, they will just go on and get away with their shit.

[odeon]

Actually the Swedish alcohol monopoly is not illegal in the EU because there has been no definitive decision on this from the EU council and the Swedish state is still claiming public health concerns as the primary reason, as far as I know.

Note that Finland has a similar monopoly.

I'm not saying that the monopoly is a good thing, but I think you should tone down the rhetorics a bit. If you want to get rid of the monopoly, labelling the state as criminals will not get you closer to your goal.