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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #180 on: November 23, 2006, 05:10:37 AM »
It's not the monopoly itself or just the monopoly that pisses me off, but their arrogans and Big Brother mentality.

If you ever tried to discuss things with the authorities, you would find out that your arguments would be worth nil, unless you had some other authority or thousands of other people supporting you.

They're power-abusing, self-righteous scums. Like the "real" criminals.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #181 on: November 23, 2006, 06:08:51 AM »
It's the Swedish Way. We're being taken care of. ;)
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #182 on: November 23, 2006, 03:10:20 PM »
Woman, 92, dies in police barrage
She fired at plainclothes officers who knocked down door in drug search.
By Greg Bluestein, Associated Press
Article Launched:11/22/2006 09:31:07 PM PST


ATLANTA - Many people on the rundown northwest Atlanta street where Kathryn Johnston lived fortify their windows with metal bars and arm themselves for protection.
Johnston, 92, was no exception.

She was waiting with her gun on Tuesday night when a group of plainclothes officers with a warrant knocked down her door in a search for drugs, police said. She opened fire, wounding three officers, before being shot to death, police said.

Assistant Police Chief Alan Dreher called the killing "tragic and unfortunate" but said the officers were justified in returning fire.

"You don't know who's in the house until you open that door," Dreher said Wednesday. "And once they forced open the door, they were immediately fired upon."

The Rev. Markel Hutchins, a civil rights activist and spokesman for Johnston's family, said he could understand why the elderly woman would arm herself.

"She was afraid," Hutchins said. "This is a horrifying situation in a neighborhood where crime happens often. This incident is a result of a mix-up."

The officers had gone to the old woman's house with a search warrant after buying drugs from a man there, police said. Dreher would not say how the dealer knew Johnston.
District Attorney Paul Howard said that his office is looking into the shooting but that a preliminary review indicates the officers had a right to search the home.

"It's the roughest neighborhood in Georgia," said 56-year-old Allen Pernel, who lives a few blocks from Johnston's home. "If she thought somebody was coming into her house, she did what any of us would have done."

Al Harley, a 50-year-old homeless man who hangs out in front of a neighborhood convenience store, said residents follow a sort of credo: "Don't let anyone disrespect your door."

The police chief said the officers had identified themselves and then forced open the door of Johnson's house of 17 years.

Bullets struck Investigator Gary Smith, 38, in the leg and Investigator Cary Bond, 38, in the arm. Investigator Gregg Junnier, 40, was hit in the leg, the face and his bulletproof vest. They were taken to the hospital and are expected to recover.

Johnston had no children. Her closest relative was a 75- year-old niece, neighbors said.

"She hardly came outside her home," said Tameka Walker, 28, who lives behind Johnston's house and used to visit her. "She's not a 92-year-old grouchy old woman you think she was. She's a very nice person."



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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #183 on: November 23, 2006, 03:14:03 PM »
There's something wrong when a 92-yo believes she has to buy a gun to protect herself.
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #184 on: November 23, 2006, 03:16:19 PM »
Well, it might have been criminals instead of cops. You know damned well that old ladies here are robbed too, and 99.99% don't have a gun.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #185 on: November 23, 2006, 03:17:54 PM »
How about this, then: there's something wrong when a 92-yo is allowed to purchase a firearm.
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« Reply #186 on: November 23, 2006, 03:23:07 PM »
How about this, then: there's something wrong when a 92-yo is allowed to purchase a firearm.

No. 92 year olds are allowed to drive a car in Sweden. And I believe they have the right to keep their licensed gun as well, if they're not getting senile. But most gun owners here are men.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #187 on: November 23, 2006, 03:23:59 PM »
How about this, then: there's something wrong when a 92-yo is allowed to purchase a firearm.

as in to protect herself from unwanted intruders?

hmmm, could the reason that they charged her home was because she is black?
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #188 on: November 23, 2006, 03:24:57 PM »
How about this, then: there's something wrong when a 92-yo is allowed to purchase a firearm.

No. 92 year olds are allowed to drive a car in Sweden. And I believe they have the right to keep their licensed gun as well, if they're not getting senile. But most gun owners here are men.

You're telling me that a 92-yo that shoots first and asks questions later is of sound mind and body? ???
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #189 on: November 23, 2006, 03:28:28 PM »
How about this, then: there's something wrong when a 92-yo is allowed to purchase a firearm.

No. 92 year olds are allowed to drive a car in Sweden. And I believe they have the right to keep their licensed gun as well, if they're not getting senile. But most gun owners here are men.

You're telling me that a 92-yo that shoots first and asks questions later is of sound mind and body? ???
omg, i see old people driving around in a coma.  cars are deadly weapons.
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #190 on: November 23, 2006, 03:29:39 PM »
I didn't say I thought they should be allowed to drive.
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #191 on: November 23, 2006, 03:33:58 PM »
I didn't say I thought they should be allowed to drive.

But they are. A license for motorcycle, car and/or light truck is for life, unless you commit a very gross crime or become very disabled.

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« Reply #192 on: November 23, 2006, 03:39:41 PM »


You're telling me that a 92-yo that shoots first and asks questions later is of sound mind and body? ???

She was afraid. She didn't have to be senile. But I agree there's something wrong when a 92 year old has to be that scared in her own home.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #193 on: November 23, 2006, 03:42:15 PM »


You're telling me that a 92-yo that shoots first and asks questions later is of sound mind and body? ???

She was afraid. She didn't have to be senile. But I agree there's something wrong when a 92 year old has to be that scared in her own home.
i bet she would have been even more afraid if she didn't have her gun as piece of mind.
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« Reply #194 on: November 23, 2006, 03:50:00 PM »
i bet she would have been even more afraid if she didn't have her gun as piece of mind.

There was an old man on TV a couple of years ago, not that old as 92 but 67 or something like that. He caught a thief and locked him into a shed. When he called the cops, the thief tried to run away. The old man took his shotgun and fired it over the thief's head. The thief didn't get hurt, but the old guy got an heart attack. The court sent him to jail for endangering the thief's life when it wasn't absolutely necessary...