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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2011, 06:59:36 PM »
And btw I believe parents DO need to be monitored a lot in some circumstances. I don't agree that cameras should be installed in people's homes without their consent though

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2011, 07:24:18 PM »
where was the bit about the cameras?

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2011, 07:38:24 PM »
The press release reads like a outreach program targeted directly at teenage criminals. Doesn't really sound that bad. There's simmilar thing like that here in the private sector.

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2011, 07:55:58 PM »
Yeah I see nothing wrong with that.

So what is the cameras stuff about?

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2011, 07:56:04 PM »
The list goes on hows this one

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Outraged parents have hit out at a school in Birmingham after pupils discovered CCTV cameras in the school's toilets.

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2011, 07:59:10 PM »
^ That camera only covered the sinks area it says.

the bit about kids being filmed getting changed is obviously worrying, but I'm guessing that was just an unforseen mistake - young kids here usually get changed in their usual classrooms

I also see nothing wrong with fingerprinting kids

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2011, 09:00:56 PM »
So what is the cameras stuff about?
Mabe they're two different things or maybe the cameras are a larger agenda with the members of the outreach program as inclusive. Do you think there are 20,000 teenage criminals in the UK?

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2011, 09:02:27 PM »
We do have some pretty scumbag teenagers here

I am still interested to see what was said about the actual cameras

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2011, 10:50:51 PM »
Where I live, there are cameras installed on trains, buses and at train and bus stations. They have helped catch those who graffiti and also those who have assaulted other people.

I am in favour of cctv in public places. Not inside people's homes though.
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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2011, 12:19:14 AM »
Where I live, there are cameras installed on trains, buses and at train and bus stations. They have helped catch those who graffiti and also those who have assaulted other people.

I am in favour of cctv in public places. Not inside people's homes though.

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2011, 12:19:55 AM »
everytime i see this update on the index page I think it says CBT

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2011, 03:27:38 AM »
But you can't walk down the street without being watched anyway - it's in public. you're outside. No privacy. end of.

There are always gonna be examples of misuse. That is obviously a problem and needs to be addressed, but loads of things which are ultimately beneficial can be corrupted. Doesn't mean we should ban them altogether.

As for MPs, police etc - they are on CCTV in the same way that you and I are. In public. They can only check up on what I'm doing when I'm in public too - fair imo

Big Brother can control everyone, of course, including MPs etc. What I'm saying is that you won't ever get access to that material but they can.
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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2011, 03:32:36 AM »
how?

FFS go read 1984 again untill you get it.  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:

When they start putting CCTV in people's houses then I'll agree with you

When they do it will be too late it's not like you can fight back then

When GPS transmitters are small enough, Big Brother may consider adding them to their arsenal (and inside your skin). They'll promise to only use them when you are out there, in public.

You have nothing to hide, right?
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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2011, 03:33:03 AM »
But you can't walk down the street without being watched anyway - it's in public. you're outside. No privacy. end of.

There are always gonna be examples of misuse. That is obviously a problem and needs to be addressed, but loads of things which are ultimately beneficial can be corrupted. Doesn't mean we should ban them altogether.

As for MPs, police etc - they are on CCTV in the same way that you and I are. In public. They can only check up on what I'm doing when I'm in public too - fair imo

Big Brother can control everyone, of course, including MPs etc. What I'm saying is that you won't ever get access to that material but they can.

Of course. But isn't that true of all similar information? Also there are what, 60million people in this country, what are the chances of the govt tracking my moves? :tinfoil: tbh I think most people who are against cctv are a bit paranoid. Similar to the people who say we need guns to protect ourselves from the govt lol

I see what you're saying, but I really don't view it as a problem. Obviously where it's being abused, yes. But everything can and is abused, doesn't mean you should stop it altogether.

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Re: Let's talk about cctv again
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2011, 03:36:24 AM »
how?

FFS go read 1984 again untill you get it.  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:  :facepalm2:

When they start putting CCTV in people's houses then I'll agree with you

When they do it will be too late it's not like you can fight back then

When GPS transmitters are small enough, Big Brother may consider adding them to their arsenal (and inside your skin). They'll promise to only use them when you are out there, in public.

You have nothing to hide, right?

Perhaps we could start using these on women? :laugh:


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