Author Topic: OK, Let's do it again. Why do you Brits have such retarded, faggotty gun laws?  (Read 19940 times)

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That a social problem, too?
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It's a social problem that began to appear in the mid 90's. Prior to that, school shootings were extremely rare. Therefore, you have to look for a sociological cause, not blame it on guns.

If children were being beaten to death by sociological causes I'd be inclined to agree.  But they get shot by guns.  It's difficult not to include guns in the blame.  As they are being shot.  By guns.  The link is about as direct as you can ever get.

:facepalm2:  FFS, the guns were there BEFORE the rise in school shootings. Hell, in 1933 a 10 year old kid could walk down to a hardware store and buy a FULLY AUTOMATIC THOMPSON SUBMACHINE GUN! Was there a rash of school shootings back then?? no. :M

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That a social problem, too?

Not as bad as the suicide rate in Sweden. :hahaha:

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That a social problem, too?

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That a social problem, too?

Don't feed the troll

He's got a social problem.
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That a social problem, too?

Not as bad as the suicide rate in Sweden. :hahaha:

His argument probably is that suicide rates would be far higher with guns.

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http://www.vakkur.com/hx/guns/guns_kia_79_99.htm

Facts?  Well you can prove anything with facts.
This is true. Though some facts can sometimes lead to intellectually dishonest conclusions. It's probably easy to prove US homicide rates are primarily a gender problem. Some people do a really good job of using facts to prove it's racial issue, and have seen it factually correlated specifically to drug trends. Some contend it's primarily socio-economic. It could be a single thing, a combination of things, or only cultural mindset.

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That a social problem, too?

Not as bad as the suicide rate in Sweden. :hahaha:

Suicide rates according to Wiki here.   Sweden and the USA very similar figures.  Both twice the rate of Britain.  Which to be honest suprises me.  Have you ever experienced our weather?  It's fucking depressing.
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http://www.vakkur.com/hx/guns/guns_kia_79_99.htm

Facts?  Well you can prove anything with facts.

I was especially fascinated by this:

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1979 32,689

1980 33,477

1981 33,778

1982 32,682

1983 30,842

1984 31,078

1985 31,324

1986 33,126

1987 32,638

1988 33,757

1989 34,471

1990 36,866

1991 38,077

1992 37,474

1993 39,358

1994 38,187

1995 35,957

1996 33,750

1997 32,166

Clearly a social problem. :P

It was stealing an obscure quote. 
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That a social problem, too?

Not as bad as the suicide rate in Sweden. :hahaha:

Suicide rates according to Wiki here.   Sweden and the USA very similar figures.  Both twice the rate of Britain.  Which to be honest suprises me.  Have you ever experienced our weather?  It's fucking depressing.

London is actually somewhat less depressing than Gothenburg, weather-wise.

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Not as bad as the suicide rate in Sweden. :hahaha:

Suicide rates according to Wiki here.   Sweden and the USA very similar figures.  Both twice the rate of Britain.  Which to be honest suprises me.  Have you ever experienced our weather?  It's fucking depressing.

The high suicide rate in the US is a recent phenomenon and will likely drop in the next few years.

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It's a social problem that began to appear in the mid 90's. Prior to that, school shootings were extremely rare. Therefore, you have to look for a sociological cause, not blame it on guns.

When I was in high school, most of the farm kids had a shotgun and a twenty two carbine hanging in the back of their pick up trucks.

Altercations were VERY common, but the idea to go out and bring back one of the guns they had at school just was not done.
You get into a fight it is going to be a FIST FIGHT.

I always carried a huge buck knife on my belt as did most guys and got into plenty of fights for looking like a hippie (I dressed like Hendrix  in high school and had my hair as long as was allowed - we had a horrid dress code) but BEING a cowboy/redneck; fights with both sides of the question.

I never pulled my Buck out even though I could easily field dress a deer or a boar with it or fatally wound a human being and neither did either one else. (that shit was for Saturday night and turf wars - not for school)

There were plenty of guns in school, but something else has changed.

Maybe it is gaming to blame where you kill your enemy and hit reset and they get up and play all over again.
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