If you guys want REALLY messy and hardcore metal, listen to 1349, Belphegor, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, Aborym, Malfeitor and especially Here Comes The Kraken, Slayer, Metallica etc. are for pussies who are in denial of coming out of the closet, the stuff I mentioned is what Metro Station and pop-rock music in general is to Slayer and Metallica, 5-10 times more.