Did Jesus really exist?

[The_Chosen_One]

On an aside

I heard that the Vatican has decided that Homer Simpson is Catholic.  Since I've never seen the show it's immaterial to me, but the fact that the Pope thinks a cartoon is Catholic is more than a little disturbing.

I think the pope needs to lay off the communion wine for a while.........

Yeah, that Dom Benedictine has gone to Benedict's head.

Although lets face it , even sober he still talks utter bollocks.

Well, as understudy to John Paul II he learned rather well on that score.

[richard]

you know what it depends on your perception. your experiances, in life will determine what you think

i personally think love, is now a receptive responce. much like will

['andersom']

On an aside

I heard that the Vatican has decided that Homer Simpson is Catholic.  Since I've never seen the show it's immaterial to me, but the fact that the Pope thinks a cartoon is Catholic is more than a little disturbing.

Anonymous Christianity taken a bit far?

['andersom']

I'm pretty sure someone named Joshua existed who was crucified, but I'm not convinced he was the Messiah.  Joshua would have been his Hebrew name.  

Joshua is certianly a better translation but the hebrew name is Yeshua.

There are no vowels in written hebrew language. Or did you mean the Y instead of the J?

[The_Chosen_One]

I'm pretty sure someone named Joshua existed who was crucified, but I'm not convinced he was the Messiah.  Joshua would have been his Hebrew name.  

Joshua is certianly a better translation but the hebrew name is Yeshua.

There are no vowels in written hebrew language. Or did you mean the Y instead of the J?

Though they could be the same name (virtually, as both are forms of Joseph) Yeshua was the name given to the son of Joseph and Mary. Joshua was an early prophet in the old teastament.

[ZEGH8578]

I'm pretty sure someone named Joshua existed who was crucified, but I'm not convinced he was the Messiah.  Joshua would have been his Hebrew name.  

Joshua is certianly a better translation but the hebrew name is Yeshua.

There are no vowels in written hebrew language. Or did you mean the Y instead of the J?

dont they use this "filler"?
that ´ looking letter? it could be anything basically, yshuh, ishih, ashah, like that whole 'finding out how jhwh is pronounced' thing
careful tho, pronouncing it correctly will implode the universe!

['andersom']

I'm pretty sure someone named Joshua existed who was crucified, but I'm not convinced he was the Messiah.  Joshua would have been his Hebrew name. 

Joshua is certianly a better translation but the hebrew name is Yeshua.

There are no vowels in written hebrew language. Or did you mean the Y instead of the J?

dont they use this "filler"?
that ´ looking letter? it could be anything basically, yshuh, ishih, ashah, like that whole 'finding out how jhwh is pronounced' thing
careful tho, pronouncing it correctly will implode the universe!

The "fillers" are a later addition to ancient Hebrew AFAIK.

You can see people "translate" the name Jesus in to all kinds of names. Jehoshua and Jesse are being used too by some too.

[The_Chosen_One]

I like the Mexican/Spanish pronounciation 'Hey-soos'.

[ZEGH8578]

I like the Mexican/Spanish pronounciation 'Hey-soos'.

you should call them "jesus" just for fun

[richard]

this guy was before jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroaster

i think that he might have copied him

[Scrapheap]

I'm pretty sure someone named Joshua existed who was crucified, but I'm not convinced he was the Messiah.  Joshua would have been his Hebrew name.  

Joshua is certianly a better translation but the hebrew name is Yeshua.

There are no vowels in written hebrew language. Or did you mean the Y instead of the J?

Though they could be the same name (virtually, as both are forms of Joseph) Yeshua was the name given to the son of Joseph and Mary. Joshua was an early prophet in the old teastament.

Yes, both "Jesus" and Joshua are the same name, Yeshua. It was a common name back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua

[The_Chosen_One]

Imagine, the 3 wise men are coming down the road, looking for the manger where Yeshua was born. Suddenly an old man asks them where they are bound. Being a bit Mutt & Jeff, he tells them just go a bit down the road, they can't miss it. So they come to another manger, go in and heap praise on the infant. Then they ask the child's name. 'Why, Joshua is his name'.

The wise men walk out saying 'fuck it, wrong bloody house again'.