Dutch is a stupid language (post Dutch failures)

[General Razorbeard]

Trønder IS a VERY complex dialect, even for Norwegians.

[odeon]

Whatever.

[P7PSP]

I admit, my language sounds heavy and weird too, but Dutch sounds like a large potato in the throat, they make that throat-sound when they say "c" and "g", Norwegians and Danes (maybe Swedes and Germans too) also make those sounds, but when they say "r", like English-speakers.

Norwegian doesn't sound heavy at all to me. I've always thought that there are very few Norwegian bank robbers and terrorists because no-one would take them seriously because of how the language sounds.

Brevik is a good reminder that Norway can produce world class asswipes for anyone who has forgotten Quisling.

[odeon]

I admit, my language sounds heavy and weird too, but Dutch sounds like a large potato in the throat, they make that throat-sound when they say "c" and "g", Norwegians and Danes (maybe Swedes and Germans too) also make those sounds, but when they say "r", like English-speakers.

Norwegian doesn't sound heavy at all to me. I've always thought that there are very few Norwegian bank robbers and terrorists because no-one would take them seriously because of how the language sounds.

Brevik is a good reminder that Norway can produce world class asswipes for anyone who has forgotten Quisling.

Indeed.

[ZEGH8578]

I admit, my language sounds heavy and weird too, but Dutch sounds like a large potato in the throat, they make that throat-sound when they say "c" and "g", Norwegians and Danes (maybe Swedes and Germans too) also make those sounds, but when they say "r", like English-speakers.

Norwegian doesn't sound heavy at all to me. I've always thought that there are very few Norwegian bank robbers and terrorists because no-one would take them seriously because of how the language sounds.

Brevik is a good reminder that Norway can produce world class asswipes for anyone who has forgotten Quisling.

Most are...
In fact, I was thinking of it just the other day. Most Norwegian youth today have very little clue or care who Quisling was.

[TheoK]

Most young people today have very little clue about things that happened before they were born.

On topic I must say that Dutch does sound a bit like distorted German - historically it is. Until the 15th century Dutch was indeed a German dialect.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

On topic I must say that Dutch does sound a bit like distorted German - historically it is. Until the 15th century Dutch was indeed a German dialect.

It was my understanding that Hochdeutsch was distorted from Plattdeutsch through a series of consonant changes. Plattdeutsch stayed more true to the original Germanic, and Dutch was related to Plattdeutsch.

(if only Lit was here to respond)

[odeon]

Lit would know, indeed.

Didn't he post at Al's place for a while?

[ZEGH8578]

If you get me drunk enough, I'll start to unsensitively mimick languages.

Except Swedish, I'll do Swedish sober

Back in animation school, me and a friend tended to go around the hallways, shouting to people to "Akta er för lejonen! AAAHAHAHAHA HIHIHI HO HO HO!"

 

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Lit would know, indeed.

Didn't he post at Al's place for a while?

Yes, he still posts there once in a while. I've seen him lurking here too.

As for my previous post, I'm just going off of what I learned in German class 30 some odd years ago. From what I remember, Plattdeutsch has changed the least from its early midieval origins whereas English and Hochdeutsch evolved in different directions but share the same root language.

['andersom']

Lit would know, indeed.

Didn't he post at Al's place for a while?

Yes, he still posts there once in a while. I've seen him lurking here too.

As for my previous post, I'm just going off of what I learned in German class 30 some odd years ago. From what I remember, Plattdeutsch has changed the least from its early midieval origins whereas English and Hochdeutsch evolved in different directions but share the same root language.

I think you are right here.

Dutch was constructed partly after the joining of the provinces. It is somewhat "synthetic" because of that. The first protestant bible translation had a big influence on the creation of Dutch too. Don't know how it is with Hochdeutsch, but something similar would not surprise me.

"Plat", "Lower Saxon", "Nedersaxisch" or "Plattduuts", whatever you call it still is a living language. My government wants to take the status of language away from it. When it is still being used in a large area. It is very close to Dutch, it is very close to German, but it has it's own vocabulary and grammar. It is not Dutch or German with an accent.
It is the language I am raised in, I wish I had some schooling in how to write it.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

"Plat", "Lower Saxon", "Nedersaxisch" or "Plattduuts", whatever you call it still is a living language. My government wants to take the status of language away from it. When it is still being used in a large area. It is very close to Dutch, it is very close to German, but it has it's own vocabulary and grammar. It is not Dutch or German with an accent.
It is the language I am raised in, I wish I had some schooling in how to write it.

When I visited Germany in 1988, the family I stayed with in Münster spoke both. It's still a somewhat common language in Northern Germany.

['andersom']

"Plat", "Lower Saxon", "Nedersaxisch" or "Plattduuts", whatever you call it still is a living language. My government wants to take the status of language away from it. When it is still being used in a large area. It is very close to Dutch, it is very close to German, but it has it's own vocabulary and grammar. It is not Dutch or German with an accent.
It is the language I am raised in, I wish I had some schooling in how to write it.

When I visited Germany in 1988, the family I stayed with in Münster spoke both. It's still a somewhat common language in Northern Germany.

It is.
On AFF/Spectrumites was a German guy from Köln, and the language he was raised in was very similar to the language I was raised in.
The languate is still alive, but in schools the official Dutch, or the official German is what is being tought and spoken.

I just read a bit on Wikipedia. You are right about Hoghdeutch being a later construction. Like in the Netherlands protestantism had a big influence on that. Protestantism focused on learning all people, to read and write, and brought one bible translation. And that translation, copied in massive amounts was one of the keys to universalising language.

[Semicolon]

['andersom']

A "ondersteuningstechnicus" is something completely different from an ingenieur. 

Our ingenieurs are people with a technical or agricultural university education (IR), or more practical high end of education(ing).