"Mozart and the Whale" - Rubbish!

[thepeaguy]

Looks like there will be a drama programme about some autistic child on British telly on Boxiing Day.

What's it called?   I tend to find these things too depressing to watch because of the stereotyping that you seem to get.

Why? I used to be like that kid. I had fucking tantrums aplenty.

http://www.itv.com/listings/Programme.aspx?itvgenre=2&channeldate=26/12/2006&channelid=WCT&scheduleid=24919383&prognum=804574&episode=804574&isfilm=No&types=audio_desc,subtitles

I wish someone did a programme on me.

Because they always seem to have such two dimensional characters who are completely defined by the fact they are autistic. What happened to

My autism alone does not define who I am or why I am interesting to those that respect me.

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Yeah, when it comes to using my autism to highlight how special I am, and the fucking aspies are notorious for that.

EDIT: Meh, fuck it, I'm gonna be demerited anytime soon. :p

[Tom/Mutate]

based on the part I saw I would say this.  Some things about "neurodiverse" people try to be  unrealistic and cartoony, like Monk, and some try to be serious, like Snow Cake and Rain Man.  And these are good.  But this movie tried to be both, and did not suceed for me.

[DirtDawg]

..... "neurodiverse" people .....

[Tom/Mutate]

lol, thats the PC term I think!!!

[DirtDawg]

Yep ... recognized it instantly. That is just one of the more funny ones. They all are designed to say nothing about what they are supposed to describe. I'm sure that is why you put the word in '' '' .
 

[Eamonn]

When I say "glorified", ...

My intention is not to make you re-think, but to give you credit for spurring my interest. I also have a similar view of what you meant by, "glorified".

I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light  due to some sensory dysfunctions, as being a glorious, fine help for a sound techie guy, like my first career. I also think that the lack of communication abilities, which forced me to make other considerations when dealing with people, are even more of a defining influence in my life. No amount of talking or making a movie about how "cool" it is to feel and hear bright light can take away the stresses of not knowing how to make myself understood when talking to friends or avoiding them, for that matter.

Any glorifying I try do, must be taken in the context of the square peg struggle to fit in the neat round holes that some of us have to deal with or the consequences of isolation, resulting from not fitting in. It will be impossible to make a movie about ASD as a generalization of what to expect when encountering an autie, but I can think of many entertaining stories to tell where ASD is a player or part of the conflict, but in each case ... you would have to be there to get it. 

Yeah everyone sees and hears bright lights. It's a buzzing noise right?

[DirtDawg]

You *snicker* me. Not even pretty pictures of soothing buzzing noises would come close to a word simile. The word, "noise", implies to me, a music minded sort of no-life, hyper-overthinking procrastinator, something with no rhythm or some kind of monotonous drone, maybe. It might even be annoying. I enjoy and chase patterns, possibilities and beauty well past the point of distraction.

Distractions also help me to appreciate lame movies and such.
 

[QuirkyCarla]

I'M DRUNK! WOOT!

[odeon]

[El]

My reaction:  The problem is that in a romantic movie, there has to be conflict.  In this movie, the only available conflict within the plot constraints was Asperger's.  So, they had to make the AS pretty severe.

Other than that, when I heard the quote "You can say Autistic.  I already know," I thought it would be my favorite quote from the movie, UNTILLLLL....

"I'm an excellent listener."



Sorry guys, but that was DAMN funny.  I've had people call me "rain man" for saying "definitely, definitely" while obsessing, to be fair.  (I think I was talking about food.  Playing the odds, even if I don't remember, I was probably talking about food.)

.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........

I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man......

No, it happens with pot, too.

[Scrapheap]

.........I think of myself and some weird, almost "savant", abilities I have, regarding seeing sounds and hearing light........

I thought that only happens when you drop Acid man......

No, it happens with pot, too.

I've been so stoned that I've seen Halucinations, but I've never heard of people seeing sounds or hearing light.

[El]

I must be remembering Drugs and Human Behavior wrong.

[Peter]

I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis.  Haven't used any for years though.

[ozymandias]

I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis.  Haven't used any for years though.

I haven't touched that stuff for 34 years and the last time was only done as a twisted birthday present!~

[El]

I hallucinate and get completely zonked on even quite low doses of cannabis.  Haven't used any for years though.

I haven't touched that stuff for 34 years and the last time was only done as a twisted birthday present!~

Were you getting pot as a present or getting stoned for someone else's amusement?