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"God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« on: May 23, 2010, 05:27:57 AM »
"I have a lot of anger in me. I always have had. Last week my doctor told me that my blood pressure is elevated again and there now seems to be a cardiac complication. I got mad. Death makes me mad. Human and animal suffering make me mad; whenever one of my cats dies I curse God and I mean it; I feel fury at him. I'd like to get him here where I could interrogate him, tell him that I think the world is screwed up, that man didn't sin and fall but was pushed--which is bad enough--but then was sold the lie that he is basically sinful, which I know he is not.
"I have known all kinds of people (I turned 50 a while ago and I'm angry about that; I've lived a long time) and those were by and large good people. I model the characters in my novels and stories on them. Now and again one of these people dies, and that makes me mad--really mad, as mad as I can get. 'You took my cat,' I want to say to God, 'and then you took my girlfriend. What are you doing? Listen to me; listen! It's wrong what you're doing.'"--Philip K Dick

I agree 100% w/ everything PKD said.

Prove me wrong, Yahweh. If you can be arsed to do so.  :mad:
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 05:50:10 AM »
“The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions.” --Frank Zappa
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 06:08:49 AM »
Quote from: punkdrew on May 23, 2010, 05:50:10 AM
“The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions.” --Frank Zappa


This is kind of true. Life gets pretty good if you just try to see the good in everything and not question it ie; keep your fucking mouth shut.

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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 06:15:36 AM »
Pay no attention to the mortal behind the curtain! The Great and Powerful God has spoken!
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 06:29:13 AM »
If God created us, then he created our intelligence and ability to question authority. But then he punished Adam and Eve (i.e., human beings) for eating apples from the Tree of Knowledge. If both facts are true, then God is a hypocrite. Or worse. (Ref. Twain quote)
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 06:30:51 AM »
There, Yahweh! I've run circles round you with logic! What say you to that?
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 06:34:01 AM »
The problem I've had with Christianity is that God's defenders try to make him seem somehow the victim of man's sin. If he really is all-knowing, then he knew, even before the beginning of time, that his human creations would disappoint him and thus "earn" damnation." So why did he go ahead and make us anyway, if not for the sadistic pleasure of torturing us in hell by the billions? :duh: :duh: :duh:
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 07:44:07 AM »
See Twain quote above.
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 08:31:44 AM »
If God does exist, he's the biggest piece of shit in the universe. The archetype for all psychopaths, bullies and oppressors.
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 08:34:46 AM »
Quote from: TheoK on May 23, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
If God does exist, he's the biggest piece of shit in the universe. The archetype for all psychopaths, bullies and oppressors.

Only if he actually resembles the image we're discussing here. He/she/it may be nothing at all like that. :chin:
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 03:04:45 PM »
Twain had some decent things to say.
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 03:16:35 PM »
We created God. We got what we deserved. /me
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2010, 10:19:15 PM »
Quote from: odeon on May 23, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
We created God. We got what we deserved. /me
Pretty much got it there.   We created our own monster.   Our perception shapes the reality of how we see god.   

If god/gods allow all of this suffering in the world, then none of us can be truly innocent... if a god would not allow innocents to suffer that is.
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 07:19:27 AM »
God is a fantastic troll, but his trolling ability was outstripped by the late, great Andy Kaufman.
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Re: "God is a malign thug."--Mark Twain
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 09:53:18 AM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on May 24, 2010, 07:19:27 AM
God is a fantastic troll, but his trolling ability was outstripped by the late, great Andy Kaufman.

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