It would be massive stupid to say the fact that in 2013 I found it gross and immoral his talking about under-aged children in this way. It is a view that has not changed. I have said as much here. The fact that I have not heard him back it up is disappointing. After all this time I was not expecting any kind of answer but it appears it is officially on the table (which I think is great) and will be given the moment you explain some fucked behaviour of your own (which I think is great).
The thing is when you say things like:
Here's what Scrap actually needs to explain:
No he doesn't. He should and I would have hoped he would have by now or better yet not said it in the first place. But after 5 years it should kind of be obvious he does not have to.
It appears you want to hear him say why he says these gross and revolting things. You have been saying it monotonously. Fair play. But now is the chance to hear why. This is what you asked for and it comes with a small price tag as far as I am concerned. It is very important to you to hear why or you would not have pursued it. I want to hear it too. I want to know what possessed him to do so.
What HE demands as a negotiation is fair and I think will be good to know what possessed you to do what he asks you to explain. I could say YOU need to but the truth is much like Scrap did not answer to charges you put at him, you can avoid backing your self too. But it will be good to see it all spill from both of you and let the pieces fall where they may.
It will be better for the forum.
As to my "red herring". You calling using my daughter as you did is NOT a red herring.
There is absolutely no ppssible way in context to what I wrote (that Odeon chose to drag in my daughter to) that it said any more or less than what it said.
Did he or did he not question whether Scrap's preferred breast size was small (underdeveloped) or not?
Who has been the most prolific poster of naked women on here?
What breast size have these women generally been?
What precisely did I say that runs contrary to the above?
What did Odeon say that runs contrary to the above?
What about these self-evident facts needs my perspective as a Father?
What of these self-evident facts do I need my love of my daughter consulted on, and what position ought I therefore take that is NOT contrary to these self-evident facts?
Which of any of these points is me gaslighting?
Which of any of the statements I made gaslighting?
These are very easy questions and do not appear to me to have ANYTHING To do with what Scrap said about young girls. As far as I know Scrap never bought my daughter into an argument to try to point-score against me. You did.
Consider this position the same as if you were railing on gross things he said about girls and then said something like "I think Scrap prefer little boys" THAT too would be pretty much impossible to defend and patently absurd. Again NOTHING he has done or said has ever given that impression in 10+ years here.
Now you can say "I was joking" or "I found a post that says..." or whatever you like BUT it would be clear that whatever merits you had in a different argument, saying he liked little boys (just like saying he liked underdeveloped boobs) is absurd and has no merits
AND HERE IS THE KICKER
It is not part of a different argument. It neither strengthens or weakens the other argument. It has no place in it.
You CAN have a strong argument about Scrap and a weak argument about Scrap. An argument that has merit and an argument that is pathetic.
I do not have to back or defend ANY argument you have with him nor do I need to back everything because you are the bastion of righteousness and morality. I know you too well for that.
