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since when did we not have the right to a job, eductaion etc?yes we experience more problems and have more obstacles to overcome to get there, but tough shit - AS is a disability whether you like it or not. more should be done to help autistic people get jobs etc, yeah. but it's hardly like there's a law against it. you can't just expect people to leave everything on a plate for you because of your AS - grow up and take some responsibility for these things yourself like other people here do (plenty have jobs and degrees)
as for that crap about giving us more social expectations... again, tough shit. it's hardly just gay people and trans people who are doing that. EVERYONE in society contributes to this kinda thing. again, that's just part of the problem with having AS. more should be done to help, yes. but you can't fucking expect everyone else to make your life perfect just for you
how is your situation any worse than, say, a gay man being forced to live his life alone or with a women? (which is what you're expecting them to do)
Quote from: Christopher McCandless on March 11, 2010, 12:48:01 PMQuote from: Thingie on March 11, 2010, 07:05:30 AMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 05:44:05 PMQuote from: Thingie on March 10, 2010, 04:24:04 PMGA isn't claiming to be physically female...Oh - so if I decided tomorrow to copy black culture, I would not be derided? And rightly so. shouldn't someone be able to act/dress however they want (assuming it's not harming anyone else)?No - because that just adds to the social expecations that we are expected to comply with. It is another piece of hassle to get around.Freedom is finite, I would rather have more important freedoms. Like for example, right to a job, right to education, right to respect. You know, the fundementals we haven't quite got. For lots of people who are faceblind, the diversity in dressing and behaviour is only helpful.
Quote from: Thingie on March 11, 2010, 07:05:30 AMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 05:44:05 PMQuote from: Thingie on March 10, 2010, 04:24:04 PMGA isn't claiming to be physically female...Oh - so if I decided tomorrow to copy black culture, I would not be derided? And rightly so. shouldn't someone be able to act/dress however they want (assuming it's not harming anyone else)?No - because that just adds to the social expecations that we are expected to comply with. It is another piece of hassle to get around.Freedom is finite, I would rather have more important freedoms. Like for example, right to a job, right to education, right to respect. You know, the fundementals we haven't quite got.
Quote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 05:44:05 PMQuote from: Thingie on March 10, 2010, 04:24:04 PMGA isn't claiming to be physically female...Oh - so if I decided tomorrow to copy black culture, I would not be derided? And rightly so. shouldn't someone be able to act/dress however they want (assuming it's not harming anyone else)?
Quote from: Thingie on March 10, 2010, 04:24:04 PMGA isn't claiming to be physically female...Oh - so if I decided tomorrow to copy black culture, I would not be derided? And rightly so.
GA isn't claiming to be physically female...
Quote from: Thingie on March 11, 2010, 01:51:24 PMsince when did we not have the right to a job, eductaion etc?yes we experience more problems and have more obstacles to overcome to get there, but tough shit - AS is a disability whether you like it or not. more should be done to help autistic people get jobs etc, yeah. but it's hardly like there's a law against it. you can't just expect people to leave everything on a plate for you because of your AS - grow up and take some responsibility for these things yourself like other people here do (plenty have jobs and degrees)as for that crap about giving us more social expectations... again, tough shit. it's hardly just gay people and trans people who are doing that. EVERYONE in society contributes to this kinda thing. again, that's just part of the problem with having AS. more should be done to help, yes. but you can't fucking expect everyone else to make your life perfect just for youhow is your situation any worse than, say, a gay man being forced to live his life alone or with a women? (which is what you're expecting them to do)I had completely forgotten that to Hadron AS is not a disability (aside from society induced problems).
since when did we not have the right to a job, eductaion etc?yes we experience more problems and have more obstacles to overcome to get there, but tough shit - AS is a disability whether you like it or not. more should be done to help autistic people get jobs etc, yeah. but it's hardly like there's a law against it. you can't just expect people to leave everything on a plate for you because of your AS - grow up and take some responsibility for these things yourself like other people here do (plenty have jobs and degrees)as for that crap about giving us more social expectations... again, tough shit. it's hardly just gay people and trans people who are doing that. EVERYONE in society contributes to this kinda thing. again, that's just part of the problem with having AS. more should be done to help, yes. but you can't fucking expect everyone else to make your life perfect just for youhow is your situation any worse than, say, a gay man being forced to live his life alone or with a women? (which is what you're expecting them to do)
Quote from: Thingie on March 11, 2010, 01:51:24 PMsince when did we not have the right to a job, eductaion etc?yes we experience more problems and have more obstacles to overcome to get there, but tough shit - AS is a disability whether you like it or not. more should be done to help autistic people get jobs etc, yeah. but it's hardly like there's a law against it. you can't just expect people to leave everything on a plate for you because of your AS - grow up and take some responsibility for these things yourself like other people here do (plenty have jobs and degrees)The obstacles should not be there - it should be no more difficult for us to get into places than it should be for anyone else. This is something that collectively we could do something about, if only some people would fight the more sensible battles. Quoteas for that crap about giving us more social expectations... again, tough shit. it's hardly just gay people and trans people who are doing that. EVERYONE in society contributes to this kinda thing. again, that's just part of the problem with having AS. more should be done to help, yes. but you can't fucking expect everyone else to make your life perfect just for youLGBT people are espically problematic in this - they have added a whole new set for no good reason whatsoever. People who create uncessary social expecations or enforce them need to be punished for doing so, it is the way forward.Quote how is your situation any worse than, say, a gay man being forced to live his life alone or with a women? (which is what you're expecting them to do)Find me a gay person in the UK being forced to do this.
Hardly - most people with AS off the internet share my view on this. I2 or any other online site is hardly representative of people with AS, by any margin.
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.
Quote from: Christopher McCandless on March 11, 2010, 04:36:32 PMQuote from: Thingie on March 11, 2010, 01:51:24 PMsince when did we not have the right to a job, eductaion etc?yes we experience more problems and have more obstacles to overcome to get there, but tough shit - AS is a disability whether you like it or not. more should be done to help autistic people get jobs etc, yeah. but it's hardly like there's a law against it. you can't just expect people to leave everything on a plate for you because of your AS - grow up and take some responsibility for these things yourself like other people here do (plenty have jobs and degrees)The obstacles should not be there - it should be no more difficult for us to get into places than it should be for anyone else. This is something that collectively we could do something about, if only some people would fight the more sensible battles. Quoteas for that crap about giving us more social expectations... again, tough shit. it's hardly just gay people and trans people who are doing that. EVERYONE in society contributes to this kinda thing. again, that's just part of the problem with having AS. more should be done to help, yes. but you can't fucking expect everyone else to make your life perfect just for youLGBT people are espically problematic in this - they have added a whole new set for no good reason whatsoever. People who create uncessary social expecations or enforce them need to be punished for doing so, it is the way forward.Quote how is your situation any worse than, say, a gay man being forced to live his life alone or with a women? (which is what you're expecting them to do)Find me a gay person in the UK being forced to do this. idiotyou are missing the point againthat is what YOU are expecting gay people to do - how is that not as bad as what you're complaining happens to you?
the obstacles should not be there? well sorry mate, this is real life. AS is a disability. a disability you can work around and overcome in some situations, yes. but a disability nevertheless
Quote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 04:08:37 PMHardly - most people with AS off the internet share my view on this. I2 or any other online site is hardly representative of people with AS, by any margin.Oh, pardon me- I hadn't realized a bunch of people from the internet agreed with you.
I can do upside down chocolate moo things!
On the other hand, you don't even recognise the fact of your own biology. Who is not being realistic here?
Quote from: PMS Elle on March 11, 2010, 06:25:39 PMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 04:08:37 PMHardly - most people with AS off the internet share my view on this. I2 or any other online site is hardly representative of people with AS, by any margin.Oh, pardon me- I hadn't realized a bunch of people from the internet agreed with you. I still like to know how diverse the group of aspies is that he knows offline.
Quote from: hykeaswell on March 12, 2010, 03:45:59 AMQuote from: PMS Elle on March 11, 2010, 06:25:39 PMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on March 10, 2010, 04:08:37 PMHardly - most people with AS off the internet share my view on this. I2 or any other online site is hardly representative of people with AS, by any margin.Oh, pardon me- I hadn't realized a bunch of people from the internet agreed with you. I still like to know how diverse the group of aspies is that he knows offline.The fact that it's a group automatically makes it a biased sample. If it's a group of aspies at a college, a thousand times moreso.