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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 07:08:33 AM »
this just in:  the right is now pro choice.


does it matter?  they are the same.  they seem to disagree on some hot topics that polarizes the voter.

QFT. As Bill Hicks said, it's all one party--the Business-as-Usual Party.
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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 08:10:25 AM »
They are the same and they should all be fought. But the people can't fighting them by accepting their oppression.

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 12:27:35 PM »
I have even heard/read people outspokenly suggest that the cops should leave the criminals' guns but concentrate on disarming the law-abiding people, since the law-abiding people are so many more!!!

This just shows the Orwellian Double-Think that othewise smart peoplec an believe in, once they become brainwashed.

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2010, 12:29:40 PM »
this just in:  the right is now pro choice.


does it matter?  they are the same.  they seem to disagree on some hot topics that polarizes the voter.

QFT. As Bill Hicks said, it's all one party--the Business-as-Usual Party.

That's because all American politics comes from the classical Liberal tradition. They're just the conservative and liberal ends of it, so there's not much difference.

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 12:39:12 PM »
I have even heard/read people outspokenly suggest that the cops should leave the criminals' guns but concentrate on disarming the law-abiding people, since the law-abiding people are so many more!!!

This just shows the Orwellian Double-Think that othewise smart peoplec an believe in, once they become brainwashed.

Yup. It was some jerk having a pretty big and well-known (for Swedish circumstances) blog suggesting it. It's kind of surreal reading such proposals. He meant it, that was obvious.

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2010, 01:54:30 PM »
Anarchists piss me off. :orly:

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2010, 02:04:17 PM »
Anarchists are BRAVE! :arrr:

You can sing this to the melody of the Internationale:

Verdammt! Wach auf, du Hammelherde
die immer noch im Dreck du liegst!
Trag Aufruhr um die ganze Erde
bevor du in die Luft mit fliegst!
Zur Hölle mit den Bürokraten!
Zum Teufel mit dem Militär!
Die sollen im Atompark braten:
Vorwärts, Genossen ans Gewehr!

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Die Internationale
kämpft für die freie Welt!

Es hilft Euch weder Pfaff, noch Bonze
kein Gott, kein Kanzler, Präsident
und was da sonst noch steht in Bronze:
es stürzt, wenn Ihr nicht länger pennt!
Hohles Gequatsche: Menschenrechte!
Leeres Geschwätz: sozialer Staat!
Ihr bleibt Lohnsklaven, Stiefelknechte
helft ihr euch selbst nicht durch die Tat!

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Die Internationale
kämpft für die freie Welt!

Im Norden, Süden, Osten, Westen
vertraut nicht Führer noch Partei
die stehen auf der anderen Seite
und halten nur sich selber frei.
Nehmt Euer Schicksal in die eignen Hände
reißt Mauern, Grenzen, Zäune ein!
Erst wenn die Herrschaft ist am Ende
kann jeder Mensch sich selbst befrein

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Wir Internationale für die neue Welt!

 8)

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2010, 10:56:49 AM »
According to the "logics" of the gun-haters, lighters should be banned. In 1998 63 people, mostly young, were killed in a disco fiire in Sweden. There have never been a private citizen killing even close to 63 people with a gun in Sweden, so lighters simply should be banned, since one is enough to kill 63 people: Gothenburg discothèque fire

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2010, 04:49:59 AM »
Well, the extreme leftists, that is, the few that are still of the old-fashion type, are in favour of using guns:

"Of course we say that the cops are pigs. We say that the type in the uniform is a swine, not a human being. And that's the way we have to deal with him. That means, we have nothing to talk with him about, and it's wrong to talk with this kind of people at all. And of course shooting might occur."

Ulrike Meinhof

„Wir sagen natürlich, die Bullen sind Schweine. Wir sagen, der Typ in Uniform ist ein Schwein, kein Mensch. Und so haben wir uns mit ihnen auseinanderzusetzen. Das heißt, wir haben nicht mit ihm zu reden, und es ist falsch, überhaupt mit diesen Leuten zu reden. Und natürlich kann geschossen werden.“

But most old-fashion leftists are dead.  :(

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2010, 08:00:28 AM »
Anarchists are BRAVE! :arrr:

You can sing this to the melody of the Internationale:

Verdammt! Wach auf, du Hammelherde
die immer noch im Dreck du liegst!
Trag Aufruhr um die ganze Erde
bevor du in die Luft mit fliegst!
Zur Hölle mit den Bürokraten!
Zum Teufel mit dem Militär!
Die sollen im Atompark braten:
Vorwärts, Genossen ans Gewehr!

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Die Internationale
kämpft für die freie Welt!

Es hilft Euch weder Pfaff, noch Bonze
kein Gott, kein Kanzler, Präsident
und was da sonst noch steht in Bronze:
es stürzt, wenn Ihr nicht länger pennt!
Hohles Gequatsche: Menschenrechte!
Leeres Geschwätz: sozialer Staat!
Ihr bleibt Lohnsklaven, Stiefelknechte
helft ihr euch selbst nicht durch die Tat!

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Die Internationale
kämpft für die freie Welt!

Im Norden, Süden, Osten, Westen
vertraut nicht Führer noch Partei
die stehen auf der anderen Seite
und halten nur sich selber frei.
Nehmt Euer Schicksal in die eignen Hände
reißt Mauern, Grenzen, Zäune ein!
Erst wenn die Herrschaft ist am Ende
kann jeder Mensch sich selbst befrein

Völker, auf zur Randale!
Weg mit Gott, Staat und Geld!
Wir Internationale für die neue Welt!

 8)

No, YOU can sing this to the melody of the Internationale! It's all in German!  :lol:


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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2010, 09:53:12 AM »
 :agreed:

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2010, 09:58:08 AM »
I've made this pretty poor English translation and posted it here before, but you get the most of it:

Damned! Wake up, you herd of sheeps,
who still are lying there in the dirt!
Start uprisings all over the Earth,
before you blow up together with it!
To Hell with the bureaucrats!
To the Devil with the military!
They should be fried in the nuclear plants:
Forwards, comrades, to arms!

So you people come riot,
away with God, state and dough!
The Internationale
fights for the free world!

No Pope, no boss will ever help you,
no God, no chancellor, no president,
and those icons made of bronze
will fall when you no longer abide!
Hollow rubbish: human rights,
empty twaddle: social state.
You will stay payment slaves and boot tenants,
as long as you don't help yourselves through action!

So you people come riot,
away with God, state and dough!
The Internationale
fights for the free world!

In the north, south, east and west,
don't trust any leader or party;
they're on the side of the others,
and will just save their own arse!
Take your destiny in your own hands,
break down walls, borders and fences!
Not before the ones in charge are no more,
every human being can liberate themselves!

So you people come riot,
away with God, state and dough!
We Internationale for the new world!


 8)

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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2010, 12:47:54 PM »
Btw, I found this very interesting article on a Swedish homepage about two infamous 19th Centruy thieves and murderers:

"From 1840 the servicemen of the police were allowed to carry weapons. The weapon was a short sabre around the waist or the shoulders. Not until 1927 the police was equipped with pistols and they should be carried in a holster attached to the waist belt."

That's very interesting. Can anyone guess which year firearm licenses were introduced in Sweden for the first time? ::)

http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/slbrott_hjert-tector.htm


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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 05:00:32 AM »
Very good. Won't happen in Europe, though, unless some really shattering happens.
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Re: American Liberals start to see the light on Gun Rights.
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2015, 09:42:01 PM »
This was before the Sand Hook shooting.

Liberals have gone back to their gun-grabbing ways.   :-\