Discuss GalileoAce

[odeon]

Yes there are social issues that come about because society works according to NT brains not Aspie brains. But that's not NT's fault, they are the majority.

There are also a host of other, non-social issues that some Aspies (and other's don't) that have nothing to do with NTs.

So, if the majority are religious dumbfucks believing that Earth is flat, people with brains should accept that?

I don't give a fuck about what the majority thinks as long as they leave me alone.

Those are not comparative examples.

Why not?

The majority are dumbfucks, btw. The general public think that Aspies are potential terrorists and school-shooters with no feelings for other human beings. Not that I get very warm feelings for them through these prejudices, though.

Proof? Aren't you presenting yourself as the one with prejudices right now? Me, I suspect that the majority doesn't care.

[TheoK]

The fact is that because of the disorder (or rather, the group of disorders, and yes, so sorry, I do think it is a disorder), we miss a huge portion of the non-verbal communication taking place between the vast majority of the population. Quite a few of us have problems with language and communication--I see my son struggling with this every day, not because he is stupid but because he is autistic--and comorbids such as OCD and ADD are common, etc, etc, etc. Ignoring these facts is not going to help you, just as pretending that the blind's lack of eyesight is everyone else's problem, not his, will help the blind.

I myself never got any help from society more than my pension. It wasn't my shrink who learned me to interpret non-verbal communication, it was myself. My shrink only told me about my limitations.  

You can overcome your limitations only when being aware of them. Yes, the society can help, and yes, those around you can help, but it's not THEIR responsibility to find out about and compensate for those limitations to the extent possible, it's YOURS. They have their own problems; why should they care about yours? It's not a blame game and treating it as such will only serve to make your life more miserable than it has to be.

Like I said, I don't see any limitations. They could have given me a job that I managed to do from home instead of a pension, but they didn't. They were never interested when I tried to get one.

['andersom']

Yes there are social issues that come about because society works according to NT brains not Aspie brains. But that's not NT's fault, they are the majority.

There are also a host of other, non-social issues that some Aspies (and other's don't) that have nothing to do with NTs.

So, if the majority are religious dumbfucks believing that Earth is flat, people with brains should accept that?

I don't give a fuck about what the majority thinks as long as they leave me alone.

Those are not comparative examples.

Why not?

The majority are dumbfucks, btw. The general public think that Aspies are potential terrorists and school-shooters with no feelings for other human beings. Not that I get very warm feelings for them through these prejudices, though.

Proof? Aren't you presenting yourself as the one with prejudices right now? Me, I suspect that the majority doesn't care.

This made me laugh so hard.

Lit, might be that you are one of the few experiencing that from the general public.

May tell more about how you present yourself than about society.

[TheoK]

Ask a random NT dumbfuck in the street. Will s/he be able to give a reasonably good explanation of what AS is? Most probably not.

[GalileoAce]

Yes there are social issues that come about because society works according to NT brains not Aspie brains. But that's not NT's fault, they are the majority.

There are also a host of other, non-social issues that some Aspies (and other's don't) that have nothing to do with NTs.

So, if the majority are religious dumbfucks believing that Earth is flat, people with brains should accept that?

I don't give a fuck about what the majority thinks as long as they leave me alone.

Those are not comparative examples.

Why not?

The majority are dumbfucks, btw. The general public think that Aspies are potential terrorists and school-shooters with no feelings for other human beings. Not that I get very warm feelings for them through these prejudices, though.

Perhaps, but you're an idiot. And you're a minority. So don't over-generalise.

Society (in part) is the way in which people interact in emotionally meaningful ways. It's not NT's or Society's fault that Aspies generally don't have emotional content in their communications. Nor is it Aspies' fault is they don't fit.

This is the world. It's no one group's fault and to claim otherwise is arrogant and ignorant.

And off topic.

['andersom']

The fact is that because of the disorder (or rather, the group of disorders, and yes, so sorry, I do think it is a disorder), we miss a huge portion of the non-verbal communication taking place between the vast majority of the population. Quite a few of us have problems with language and communication--I see my son struggling with this every day, not because he is stupid but because he is autistic--and comorbids such as OCD and ADD are common, etc, etc, etc. Ignoring these facts is not going to help you, just as pretending that the blind's lack of eyesight is everyone else's problem, not his, will help the blind.

I myself never got any help from society more than my pension. It wasn't my shrink who learned me to interpret non-verbal communication, it was myself. My shrink only told me about my limitations.  

You can overcome your limitations only when being aware of them. Yes, the society can help, and yes, those around you can help, but it's not THEIR responsibility to find out about and compensate for those limitations to the extent possible, it's YOURS. They have their own problems; why should they care about yours? It's not a blame game and treating it as such will only serve to make your life more miserable than it has to be.

Like I said, I don't see any limitations. They could have given me a job that I managed to do from home instead of a pension, but they didn't. They were never interested when I tried to get one.

So, you are more angry with the Swedish wellfare system than with NT society in general.

In my country, they will keep motivating and trying to support a person with ASD to find a fitting job. Disability pension doesn't change that.

[odeon]

Ask a random NT dumbfuck in the street. Will s/he be able to give a reasonably good explanation of what AS is? Most probably not.

Why should they have detailed knowledge of AS when it is a disorder affecting a small fraction of the population?

['andersom']

Ask a random NT dumbfuck in the street. Will s/he be able to give a reasonably good explanation of what AS is? Most probably not.

No, they won't.

But most don't come up with Volkert van der Graaf or a schoolkilling.

They do have either the image of a severely autistic person, or of a computer wizzkid without social skills. The latter the most in my experience. Still flawed, but not as negative as you make it to be.

Lots of people do know someone with a kid on the spectrum too nowadays. That does make a bit of a difference in how they see things.

[TheoK]

The fact is that because of the disorder (or rather, the group of disorders, and yes, so sorry, I do think it is a disorder), we miss a huge portion of the non-verbal communication taking place between the vast majority of the population. Quite a few of us have problems with language and communication--I see my son struggling with this every day, not because he is stupid but because he is autistic--and comorbids such as OCD and ADD are common, etc, etc, etc. Ignoring these facts is not going to help you, just as pretending that the blind's lack of eyesight is everyone else's problem, not his, will help the blind.

I myself never got any help from society more than my pension. It wasn't my shrink who learned me to interpret non-verbal communication, it was myself. My shrink only told me about my limitations.  

You can overcome your limitations only when being aware of them. Yes, the society can help, and yes, those around you can help, but it's not THEIR responsibility to find out about and compensate for those limitations to the extent possible, it's YOURS. They have their own problems; why should they care about yours? It's not a blame game and treating it as such will only serve to make your life more miserable than it has to be.

Like I said, I don't see any limitations. They could have given me a job that I managed to do from home instead of a pension, but they didn't. They were never interested when I tried to get one.

So, you are more angry with the Swedish wellfare system than with NT society in general.

In my country, they will keep motivating and trying to support a person with ASD to find a fitting job. Disability pension doesn't change that.

No, I'm satisfied with my pension. The NT dumbfucks can work and pay for my living. They chose this society that made me marginalized in the first place. Soleiyu is perfectly right about that.

I just despise them of all my heart for thinking that they are in any way superior.

[TheoK]

Ask a random NT dumbfuck in the street. Will s/he be able to give a reasonably good explanation of what AS is? Most probably not.

Why should they have detailed knowledge of AS when it is a disorder affecting a small fraction of the population?

We are about as many in percentage as the Jews in Nazi Germany were. Do you think that the German in general had a good idea of what a Jew was in Nazi Germany?

[GalileoAce]

I dyed my hair recently...

[odeon]

The fact is that because of the disorder (or rather, the group of disorders, and yes, so sorry, I do think it is a disorder), we miss a huge portion of the non-verbal communication taking place between the vast majority of the population. Quite a few of us have problems with language and communication--I see my son struggling with this every day, not because he is stupid but because he is autistic--and comorbids such as OCD and ADD are common, etc, etc, etc. Ignoring these facts is not going to help you, just as pretending that the blind's lack of eyesight is everyone else's problem, not his, will help the blind.

I myself never got any help from society more than my pension. It wasn't my shrink who learned me to interpret non-verbal communication, it was myself. My shrink only told me about my limitations.  

You can overcome your limitations only when being aware of them. Yes, the society can help, and yes, those around you can help, but it's not THEIR responsibility to find out about and compensate for those limitations to the extent possible, it's YOURS. They have their own problems; why should they care about yours? It's not a blame game and treating it as such will only serve to make your life more miserable than it has to be.

Like I said, I don't see any limitations. They could have given me a job that I managed to do from home instead of a pension, but they didn't. They were never interested when I tried to get one.

So, you are more angry with the Swedish wellfare system than with NT society in general.

In my country, they will keep motivating and trying to support a person with ASD to find a fitting job. Disability pension doesn't change that.

No, I'm satisfied with my pension. The NT dumbfucks can work and pay for my living. They chose this society that made me marginalized in the first place. Soleiyu is perfectly right about that.

I just despise them of all my heart for thinking that they are in any way superior.

Again, proof?

[odeon]

Ask a random NT dumbfuck in the street. Will s/he be able to give a reasonably good explanation of what AS is? Most probably not.

Why should they have detailed knowledge of AS when it is a disorder affecting a small fraction of the population?

We are about as many in percentage as the Jews in Nazi Germany were. Do you think that the German in general had a good idea of what a Jew was in Nazi Germany?

And this argument is relevant because...? The Jews were a productive part of the German society until the Nazis forced them out.

[TheoK]

Again, proof?

Proof for what? That they think they're superior? Most NTs think that you are mentally retarded when you tell them that you have AS.

Ironically the few admitting that we are not are not the average dumbfucks in the street. My shrink admitted that I have higher intelligence than he has, for instances

['andersom']

The fact is that because of the disorder (or rather, the group of disorders, and yes, so sorry, I do think it is a disorder), we miss a huge portion of the non-verbal communication taking place between the vast majority of the population. Quite a few of us have problems with language and communication--I see my son struggling with this every day, not because he is stupid but because he is autistic--and comorbids such as OCD and ADD are common, etc, etc, etc. Ignoring these facts is not going to help you, just as pretending that the blind's lack of eyesight is everyone else's problem, not his, will help the blind.

I myself never got any help from society more than my pension. It wasn't my shrink who learned me to interpret non-verbal communication, it was myself. My shrink only told me about my limitations.  

You can overcome your limitations only when being aware of them. Yes, the society can help, and yes, those around you can help, but it's not THEIR responsibility to find out about and compensate for those limitations to the extent possible, it's YOURS. They have their own problems; why should they care about yours? It's not a blame game and treating it as such will only serve to make your life more miserable than it has to be.

Like I said, I don't see any limitations. They could have given me a job that I managed to do from home instead of a pension, but they didn't. They were never interested when I tried to get one.

So, you are more angry with the Swedish wellfare system than with NT society in general.

In my country, they will keep motivating and trying to support a person with ASD to find a fitting job. Disability pension doesn't change that.

No, I'm satisfied with my pension. The NT dumbfucks can work and pay for my living. They chose this society that made me marginalized in the first place. Soleiyu is perfectly right about that.

I just despise them of all my heart for thinking that they are in any way superior.

You are contradicting yourself Lit.