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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2010, 02:58:02 PM »
I hope this kind of stuff isn't shocking or unexpected to you guys. Its been going on since the first human got smart enough to fuck another one over.

Most people are just pure evil. Thats just the way it is.
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They will always see that in my eyes.
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I will never stop...
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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2010, 04:02:50 PM »
I hope this kind of stuff isn't shocking or unexpected to you guys. Its been going on since the first human got smart enough to fuck another one over.

Most people are just pure evil. Thats just the way it is.

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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2010, 06:21:40 PM »
Weren't you recently razzing someone about being a misanthrope?

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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2010, 06:25:11 PM »
Weren't you recently razzing someone about being a misanthrope?

Yes, and your point being??

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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2010, 06:26:47 PM »
It gave the impression you view it as a negative.

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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2010, 06:34:06 PM »
It gave the impression you view it as a negative.

 :scratchhead:

I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2010, 06:37:18 PM »
Your response to Rage made me think you view it as a positive.
Guess iit's you that confuses me.

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Why would you view misanthropy as a negative?
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2010, 07:47:43 PM »
I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??
Will go first since you asked first. In an effort to avoid never ending discussion of the definition of subjective or abstract words like bad or evil, will use the word 'negative'. If you agree with Rage's statement and the statement in your signature, then you agree there's an intrinsic negative in the foundation of humanity, and the existence of this negative is a fundamental truth. The acceptance of fundamental truth is logical, and misanthropy is a logical response to this acceptance. Logical responses are positive.

This could be fun. Now you go.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2010, 09:46:41 PM »
I'm still not catching your drift. Why wouldn't I view being misanthropic as negative??
Will go first since you asked first. In an effort to avoid never ending discussion of the definition of subjective or abstract words like bad or evil, will use the word 'negative'. If you agree with Rage's statement and the statement in your signature, then you agree there's an intrinsic negative in the foundation of humanity, and the existence of this negative is a fundamental truth. The acceptance of fundamental truth is logical, and misanthropy is a logical response to this acceptance. Logical responses are positive.

This could be fun. Now you go.

Aaah, OK I see what you're getting at now. The confusion, I believe, is the sense in which I'm using the word. Directed towards Soph, I was using it as a synonym for sociopath (i.e. someonw who lacks empathy). I felt that sociopath was too strong of a word, so I used misanthrope instead. Directed towards Rage, it was a mere acknowledgement of how hierarchical behavior in humanity is often destructive.

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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2010, 01:55:18 PM »
*pout* Will make you use that black belt yet.

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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2010, 05:02:49 PM »
!0.000 fuck it's a lot more than that
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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2010, 11:49:44 PM »
How Swedish authorities tested how dental tooth decay developed:

Vipeholms experiments

Sounds like the infamous Tuskegee "experiment."
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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2010, 02:18:36 AM »
"The biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe ... When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very, very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun... "--Frank Zappa
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Re: U.S. Gov deliberately kills 10,000 of its own citizens
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2010, 04:46:09 AM »
Sounds like a prophecy slowly coming to fruition, although a few words need to be changed, but nevertheless.

Seriously, shit's messed up. Now they're trying to scare people with the threat of 'nuclear terrorism' again; also deciding to mention their recent nuclear policy declarations, (which is all actually a subtle jab against Iran, and to rally for war like they did with Iraq), I mean please. ::)
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Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2010, 09:05:50 PM »
Frank Zappa liked to engage in hyperbole it would seem.