Ban the internet

['andersom']

Internet gave me so much good the past few years. Were it not there, sure I would have found other things to do. But take it away from me now, and life would become very barren indeed.

Cars, yes, I can live without, but only because I live on the route of a very good public transport line. Would want one if I lived in another village.

Of course people would survive without, as a species. But I do wonder if the earth could sustain as many people as it does now, without all the modern things. The modern things come with modern ways of destruction too. Nothing is good in itself.

Evolution and developing into a more modern society will not improve humankind, it is about adapting to the time where you live in. Longing back to prehistoric times will not help the world as it is now.

One 'consolation', in two-hundred years, the world will be completely different from now, but humankind will not have improved, just changed a bit.

[ZEGH8578]

Internet gave me so much good the past few years. Were it not there, sure I would have found other things to do. But take it away from me now, and life would become very barren indeed.

Cars, yes, I can live without, but only because I live on the route of a very good public transport line. Would want one if I lived in another village.

Of course people would survive without, as a species. But I do wonder if the earth could sustain as many people as it does now, without all the modern things. The modern things come with modern ways of destruction too. Nothing is good in itself.

Evolution and developing into a more modern society will not improve humankind, it is about adapting to the time where you live in. Longing back to prehistoric times will not help the world as it is now.

One 'consolation', in two-hundred years, the world will be completely different from now, but humankind will not have improved, just changed a bit.

yes, modernization is not improvement, its just _progress_ of various topics, this doesnt equal that things progressively get better for us as a species. people notoriously ignore 3 quarters of the planet, when praising what technology has brought us.

i say we're smart enough to decide what we need and what we dont need. we dont need to communicate world wide. we dont need public transportation, we have legs. we dont need to travel abroad, and when we do, we have legs
its not like we DIED OUT 100 000 years ago, cus we lacked everything we have today. we're clearly here.

humans adapted _into_ the wild. the wild is where we belong

['andersom']

Humans live in a different world now, and adapted to that.

Somehow, my legs won't bring me to where the internet can bring me, and I do consider it vital for me.

[Callaway]

Of course people would survive without, as a species. But I do wonder if the earth could sustain as many people as it does now, without all the modern things. The modern things come with modern ways of destruction too. Nothing is good in itself.

I think that you're right.  If we as a species were forced to live more primitively, millions of people would die because so many people live close to the edge of survival as it is.

[Scrapheap]

^ Great! Put your money where your mouth is and quit using the internet.  

i pre-pwned this by anticipating it in my first post

That was directed at Bintytard, not you.

also, if my world comes true, "the elites" would be as naked as you, hunting bunnies. maybe your even strong enough to kick old peoples ass, you could easily depose them. think of the possibilities

No, the elites would still have access to more information. Keeping truth to themselves while telling lies to the common people who rely on them for information. Can you say "theocracy"??

[renaeden]

Internet has allowed aspies to communicate. I could do without tv. And someone would have to hunt and cook for me.

I also use public transport to get to uni. I could do without a car, though. Inconvenient sometimes but I could do without.

[Scrapheap]

yes, modernization is not improvement, its just _progress_ of various topics, this doesnt equal that things progressively get better for us as a species.

 

Better medicine, more food, more mating opportunities (half of my GF's have been from match.com), more comfortable living...

yeah,yeah,yeah. modern technology as been e real drag on the human race.     

[ZEGH8578]

yes, modernization is not improvement, its just _progress_ of various topics, this doesnt equal that things progressively get better for us as a species.

 

Better medicine, more food, more mating opportunities (half of my GF's have been from match.com), more comfortable living...

yeah,yeah,yeah. modern technology as been e real drag on the human race.    

yeah, so you mention the good things, and then im an idiot, yes?
moron.

nukes, nerve gas, pollution, overpopulation, mass-harvest of resources.

also, more comfortable living? for who? for somalia?

unless your mind gains the capacity to see a wider more complete picture of the world, dont reply to me

also, the fact that you think internet puts you on the same information level as "the elite" says the same: your xp isnt high enough to interact with me :]

[Parts]

How many people do you think the earth could accomadate in this type of universe you propose?

It has been estimated that people who depend on hunting and gathering must have approximately 20 to 1,500 square kilometers (10 to 700 square miles) of land per person, depending on the climate .

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3400500196.html

What would you do with the rest?

I think I could live that lifestyle if I wanted and have joke about getting a unabomber shack before. I would not impose it on others though.  As far as tech goes where would you cut it off and prevent it from rebuilding would you resort to force? 

It's a violent world don't kid yourself and if you want a global respective on that look at Africa and the slaughter there a lot with machetes not nukes or nerve gas 

[ZEGH8578]

How many people do you think the earth could accomadate in this type of universe you propose?

It has been estimated that people who depend on hunting and gathering must have approximately 20 to 1,500 square kilometers (10 to 700 square miles) of land per person, depending on the climate .

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3400500196.html

What would you do with the rest?

I think I could live that lifestyle if I wanted and have joke about getting a unabomber shack before. I would not impose it on others though.  As far as tech goes where would you cut it off and prevent it from rebuilding would you resort to force?  

It's a violent world don't kid yourself and if you want a global respective on that look at Africa and the slaughter there a lot with machetes not nukes or nerve gas  

dont get me wrong. im not looking for a _peacefull and safe_ utopia for me. im just looking back to the nature of humanity. we have a nature and we also have an observational and abstract skill. we can see that this goes nowhere. we should go back to the methods that brought us here, but stay there. that way humanity continues to not make sense, and we can avoid destroying the world while we exist.

yes people would die. MOST people would die, thats another dream of mine, to see well more than 99% of the world population go away. yes. im not gonna kill anybody, i dont propose how this will happen. personally im hoping for a meteor or something. i know i sound both childish and crude, but i dont care. the optimal world population for humans, in my opinion, is a maximum of ten million. and wich such a low population, living in nature would be much more easy.

[Parts]

It would never be easy.  What type of tech to you propose keeping do we go back to stone tools.  And what of everything that's already here?  Somebody would come along and organize things and start it all over again not everyone would be content on living that way.  Survival of the fittest isn't a pretty sight when it's your survival at stake it brutal and bloody

[ZEGH8578]

It would never be easy.  What type of tech to you propose keeping do we go back to stone tools.  And what of everything that's already here?  Somebody would come along and organize things and start it all over again not everyone would be content on living that way.  Survival of the fittest isn't a pretty sight when it's your survival at stake it brutal and bloody

aspies have the possibility of being cunning and manipulative, if we put our minds to it :]

its a big-picture-world i imagine. the world today is a survival-of-the-fittest world as well, only im incredibly lucky to live in norway.

in my stone-age utopia, i would be just as lucky! needless to say

its just a dream. people often have it when theyre young, but then good responsible people tell you what a lame-ass you are for dreaming such stuff "if there was no bus, you'd have to WALK to work!" "if there was no work, you wouldnt be able to buy milk!" "if there were no grocery stores, where'd we get our food?" "if we were in a stone-age society, imagine how boring it would be without tv!" "no, no, laddie, we all had ideas like that when we were young, but adulthood is about conforming to the government, giving your existence away to old people youve never met, and then dying for nothing!"
"thanx dad "

i want flames..

[Parts]

To tell the truth I have had the same dreams when younger and the even occasional one now.  Don't look for flames from me though just practical arguments.  The idea is indeed intriguing yet impractical.  I have had dreams of self sufficiency lately  but not giving up the tech just living off the grid.  There is a book I saw someplace about being self sufficient on 5 acres

[ZEGH8578]

To tell the truth I have had the same dreams when younger and the even occasional one now.  Don't look for flames from me though just practical arguments.  The idea is indeed intriguing yet impractical.  I have had dreams of self sufficiency lately  but not giving up the tech just living off the grid.  There is a book I saw someplace about being self sufficient on 5 acres

i meant flames as in litteral ones i want sulphur to shoot up from the ground. it would put a "spin" to peoples daily routines

my only "irl" aspie friend, who like me - only recently discovered about aspiedom told me his own "dream": i wanna live far far away, so far away that impulsive visits would be out of the question. in fact, visiting me at all would be something to plan for weeks ahead.
me: that rules out norway then.
him: oh yes, i was thinking way into siberia. with regular supplies loaded down by helicopters.
me: helicopters, eh?

its okay to dream :]

[Parts]

Flames

Places I have considered have been Maine and out West possibly Canada.  An hour drive up   a dirt road would be good enough for me.