On Star

[skyblue1]

I don't like the idea of anyone being able to do that to my vehicle stolen or not remotely

total agreement, with that. next thing you know they will be putting Onstar in your sneakers

or a chip in your shoulders.   

no more chip on your shoulder......................................how sad

[Parts]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

[Christopher McCandless]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

[Parts]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

And if you were in that airplane would you want someone able to cut the power on it

[Christopher McCandless]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

And if you were in that airplane would you want someone able to cut the power on it

If I was worried then I would bring a parachute.

[Parts]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

And if you were in that airplane would you want someone able to cut the power on it

If I was worried then I would bring a parachute.

Yes you would but we all don't like jumping out of planes like you

[skyblue1]

they wont let me fly with my parachute. Said it looks bad,for some reason. I say let the other passengers get their own.

[Christopher McCandless]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

And if you were in that airplane would you want someone able to cut the power on it

If I was worried then I would bring a parachute.

Yes you would but we all don't like jumping out of planes like you

Quite a lot of people here are not allowed to jump - for their health you see Going splat is better for them, apparently.

[Parts]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

Aircraft usually have double or triple redundancy built into them also

[skyblue1]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Did not realize that the Prius had an acceleration problem. I thought it was having brake issues.

[Christopher McCandless]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

Aircraft usually have double or triple redundancy built into them also

How difficult is it to do the same with a car?

[Parts]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

Aircraft usually have double or triple redundancy built into them also

How difficult is it to do the same with a car?

Not so difficult but they don't

[McGiver]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

Aircraft usually have double or triple redundancy built into them also

How difficult is it to do the same with a car?

it would drive the price too high!

[Christopher McCandless]

NEW YORK – Your most expensive piece of electronics probably is not your flat panel TV or your computer. More likely, it's your car, which can pack 50 microprocessors to control everything from the fuel mix to the rearview mirrors.

The recalls and other technical problems besetting Toyota in the last few weeks highlight the risks of relying on electronics instead of the mechanical rods and cables that controlled vehicles for most of the 20th century.

Such advancements bring many benefits, but the worry is that the car is a computer on wheels that could freeze up and potentially crash. No less a computer celebrity than Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Wozniak has said his Toyota Prius sometimes accelerates on its own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100205/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tec_toyota_car_electronics
A little more to think about

Not really - its only a problem if they really screw up the programming. Most aircraft these days are fly by wire, they lack the same problems, despite the computers being thousands of times more complex...

Aircraft usually have double or triple redundancy built into them also

How difficult is it to do the same with a car?

it would drive the price too high!

Not really - most of these circuits cost peanuts.

[McGiver]

but they would call it research and development costs.