Questions for Callaway

[Tristeza]

Callaway, could you give me an extremely brief summary of Cal's vision for Intensity vs everyone else's?

I can't keep up with all these threads, but I'd still like to know the real reason for the differences of opinion regarding how this place is to be run.

[Tesla]

I have a question for Callaway.

How much longer do you think this crap is going to go on?

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

As long as Calandale is here, he will continue to attack Odeon and me and probably Dunc as well (or whoever the semi-permanent administrator and webmonkeys are) because Calandale thinks that being an administrator or webmonkey is about power, when it isn't.  It's about serving the members, which is quite the opposite of what he thinks, actually.  He has compared both Odeon and me to Hitler, he has repeatedly attacked our character, and he has attacked Dunc as well.  Apparently, he believes that slinging mud at other people makes him better than they are.  I think that it has something to do with his NPD, where he tears other people down to make himself look better.  It seems to be a pattern of behavior for him.  For example, look at his posts where he talks about raping that woman he calls his PE and tearing her face open.  He shifted the blame for his criminal actions from himself onto her.

This puts us in the unfortunate position of either choosing not to respond to his numerous personal attacks, or responding to them.  Responding to his personal attacks feeds his narcissism, but not responding means that his lies stand unchallenged, and there are some people who will believe them.  Actually, since he spams each of his personal attacks in several places, his lies would probably stand unchallenged in most of them anyway, or else we would have to be as obsessed as he seems to be to respond everywhere he posts the same attacks.  This is his fighting style to make unsubstantiated allegations in numerous places, almost never backing up any of them, burying his opponents in a barrage of words, and deliberately misreading their words to the point that they give up trying to communicate with him.

I don't see a solution.  I think that it would be a very bad idea to allow him to run Intensity the way he wants it to be run to shut him up, because his vision of Intensity seems to be quite different from everyone else's.

Do you see a solution?

[Callaway]

I have a question for Callaway.

How much longer do you think this crap is going to go on?

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

As long as Calandale is here, he will continue to attack Odeon and me and probably Dunc as well (or whoever the semi-permanent administrator and webmonkeys are) because Calandale thinks that being an administrator or webmonkey is about power, when it isn't.  It's about serving the members, which is quite the opposite of what he thinks, actually.  He has compared both Odeon and me to Hitler, he has repeatedly attacked our character, and he has attacked Dunc as well.  Apparently, he believes that slinging mud at other people makes him better than they are.  I think that it has something to do with his NPD, where he tears other people down to make himself look better.  It seems to be a pattern of behavior for him.  For example, look at his posts where he talks about raping that woman he calls his PE and tearing her face open.  He shifted the blame for his criminal actions from himself onto her.

This puts us in the unfortunate position of either choosing not to respond to his numerous personal attacks, or responding to them.  Responding to his personal attacks feeds his narcissism, but not responding means that his lies stand unchallenged, and there are some people who will believe them.  Actually, since he spams each of his personal attacks in several places, his lies would probably stand unchallenged in most of them anyway, or else we would have to be as obsessed as he seems to be to respond everywhere he posts the same attacks.  This is his fighting style to make unsubstantiated allegations in numerous places, almost never backing up any of them, burying his opponents in a barrage of words, and deliberately misreading their words to the point that they give up trying to communicate with him.

I don't see a solution.  I think that it would be a very bad idea to allow him to run Intensity the way he wants it to be run to shut him up, because his vision of Intensity seems to be quite different from everyone else's.

Do you see a solution?

Wow!  You are absolutely right, Tesla.  That is the very definition of a troll.  I'll do my best to stop feeding it and I encourage others to do the same.

 

 

[Christopher McCandless]

I have a question for Callaway.

How much longer do you think this crap is going to go on?

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

As long as Calandale is here, he will continue to attack Odeon and me and probably Dunc as well (or whoever the semi-permanent administrator and webmonkeys are) because Calandale thinks that being an administrator or webmonkey is about power, when it isn't.  It's about serving the members, which is quite the opposite of what he thinks, actually.  He has compared both Odeon and me to Hitler, he has repeatedly attacked our character, and he has attacked Dunc as well.  Apparently, he believes that slinging mud at other people makes him better than they are.  I think that it has something to do with his NPD, where he tears other people down to make himself look better.  It seems to be a pattern of behavior for him.  For example, look at his posts where he talks about raping that woman he calls his PE and tearing her face open.  He shifted the blame for his criminal actions from himself onto her.

This puts us in the unfortunate position of either choosing not to respond to his numerous personal attacks, or responding to them.  Responding to his personal attacks feeds his narcissism, but not responding means that his lies stand unchallenged, and there are some people who will believe them.  Actually, since he spams each of his personal attacks in several places, his lies would probably stand unchallenged in most of them anyway, or else we would have to be as obsessed as he seems to be to respond everywhere he posts the same attacks.  This is his fighting style to make unsubstantiated allegations in numerous places, almost never backing up any of them, burying his opponents in a barrage of words, and deliberately misreading their words to the point that they give up trying to communicate with him.

I don't see a solution.  I think that it would be a very bad idea to allow him to run Intensity the way he wants it to be run to shut him up, because his vision of Intensity seems to be quite different from everyone else's.

Do you see a solution?

Seriously consider all he has suggested, without making slights or undermining him. One thread on how Intensity should be ran with that in. Should not be too hard to do.

Its everyone elses mess as much as his. At least take your responsibility, rather than ascribe it all to others.

[Calandale]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

As long as Calandale is here, he will continue to attack Odeon and me and probably Dunc as well (or whoever the semi-permanent administrator and webmonkeys are)

I will always be vigilant against those who are in power, yes.
Any display of apparent abuses will be noted. And, any attacks
(such as this) on my habit will be defended against.

...because Calandale thinks that being an administrator or webmonkey is about power, when it isn't.  It's about serving the members, which is quite the opposite of what he thinks, actually.

No. I know precisely what it is about. But, power is an
unfortunate side-effect, when the members are unable
to do things for themselves. One which can be (and is)
abused.

  He has compared both Odeon and me to Hitler,

Posting does not constitute a comparison.

he has repeatedly attacked our character,

As expressed in your posts and actions here.

and he has attacked Dunc as well.

When need be. He tends to be less prone to abuses,
EVEN though he is willing to prank. Kinda is leading me
to a hypothesis about those who are so unhappy with
being pranked.

For example, look at his posts where he talks about raping that woman he calls his PE and tearing her face open.  He shifted the blame for his criminal actions from himself onto her.

No. The blame is mine. (but, once again, onto the personal)
I merely filled in details which were pertinent. As to tearing her
face open, honestly, I have no idea what was behind that - it
was not done in anger.

This puts us in the unfortunate position of either choosing not to respond to his numerous personal attacks, or responding to them.  Responding to his personal attacks feeds his narcissism, but not responding means that his lies stand unchallenged, and there are some people who will believe them.  Actually, since he spams each of his personal attacks in several places, his lies would probably stand unchallenged in most of them anyway, or else we would have to be as obsessed as he seems to be to respond everywhere he posts the same attacks.  This is his fighting style to make unsubstantiated allegations in numerous places, almost never backing up any of them, burying his opponents in a barrage of words, and deliberately misreading their words to the point that they give up trying to communicate with him.

I don't believe I've told a lie. Your presenting
me as having done so, as a FACT, is clearly such
a case though.

I don't see a solution.  I think that it would be a very bad idea to allow him to run Intensity the way he wants it to be run to shut him up, because his vision of Intensity seems to be quite different from everyone else's.

Who EVER said I'd want to run the place?

Do you see a solution?

Learn to be fair.

[Tesla]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

[Calandale]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

Well, you've served your purpose as a tool for reopening
it well. I mean, obviously 'twas only meant to open up
more discussion. Such a question could serve to do nothing
else. But, shit stirring is ok.

[Callaway]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

See how difficult it is not to answer when someone tells lies about you, Tesla?

That's how they suck you in.

[Christopher McCandless]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

See how difficult it is not to answer when someone tells lies about you, Tesla?

That's how they suck you in.

Especially if you lie about yourself to yourself...

[Tesla]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

See how difficult it is not to answer when someone tells lies about you, Tesla?

That's how they suck you in.

True.

[Calandale]

This is an excellent question, Tesla.  I wish I knew the answer.

But, you turn it into a beautiful (though somewhat false) attack.
Then again, since it ONLY could have served to reignite the issues,
which were dying down naturally, one must assume that Tesla was
bored, and rather enjoys these exchanges - even if he's unwilling
to actually participate.

I am bored, but not when I asked the question.  I honestly do not read the squabbling, thus I didn't know the issues had died down naturally.  If I feel the site is unfair to myself, I will quietly find new places to peruse. 

See how difficult it is not to answer when someone tells lies about you, Tesla?

That's how they suck you in.

Please point out the lie, in my statement then.

[odeon]

Seriously consider all he has suggested, without making slights or undermining him. One thread on how Intensity should be ran with that in. Should not be too hard to do.

Its everyone elses mess as much as his. At least take your responsibility, rather than ascribe it all to others.

Good one.

But seriously, Tesla's right. Let's stop feeding it.

[Calandale]

Yes. Making fun of the voices of reason
is a fantastic tactic, when you have nothing
better. Ignoring them is, as well.

[Calandale]

Until people start to realize that's all you really have.

[Tristeza]

Callaway, could you give me an extremely brief summary of Cal's vision for Intensity vs everyone else's?

I can't keep up with all these threads, but I'd still like to know the real reason for the differences of opinion regarding how this place is to be run.

I posted a question, and it didn't get answered.  Everyone was too busy picking at each other.