Swanson was released from the Mental Hospital... his condition is stable, as long as he cooperates with his doctor's orders to not go near any ponds from now on.
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Quote from: Christopher McCandless on September 16, 2009, 03:09:54 PMQuote from: odeon on September 16, 2009, 02:50:34 PMQuote from: PMS Elle on September 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PMQuote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?You'd have to carefully study the Brits to get that. It's a strict class hierarchy, still. Someone using the word "toilet" instead of, say, "loo", will instantly be recognise as lower class or lower middle class (worse).I think you have it the other way around, "Loo" is the lower class one out of the two. Or even lower, use "Bog" or "Crapper". That's what I thought, too, when I used "toilet" in place of "loo", and was told off by a certain witch who used to post here. According to her (and a sociologist who wrote about the English in a book I can't remember the title of, right now), "loo" is higher up.The explanation seems to be that if you really are upper class, you don't have to care. Reverse logic but it makes sense.
Quote from: odeon on September 16, 2009, 02:50:34 PMQuote from: PMS Elle on September 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PMQuote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?You'd have to carefully study the Brits to get that. It's a strict class hierarchy, still. Someone using the word "toilet" instead of, say, "loo", will instantly be recognise as lower class or lower middle class (worse).I think you have it the other way around, "Loo" is the lower class one out of the two. Or even lower, use "Bog" or "Crapper".
Quote from: PMS Elle on September 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PMQuote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?You'd have to carefully study the Brits to get that. It's a strict class hierarchy, still. Someone using the word "toilet" instead of, say, "loo", will instantly be recognise as lower class or lower middle class (worse).
Quote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?
You'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are.
Don't you say "bathroom" about that place other Europeans call toilet?
Its on track to being a social norm - business in that sector is absolutely booming.
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.
I say loo.
I say "restroom" more often than "bathroom" (unless it actually is a bathroom), which is something I picked up when I lived in Florida and it never went away, I think. "The little girl's room" is traditionally what snobby women would call it, and "the ladies' room" is a formal but not obnoxious way to phrase it. To my knowledge, the American lower class way to put it is "I gotta pee."
Quote from: PMS Elle on September 17, 2009, 07:33:22 AMI say "restroom" more often than "bathroom" (unless it actually is a bathroom), which is something I picked up when I lived in Florida and it never went away, I think. "The little girl's room" is traditionally what snobby women would call it, and "the ladies' room" is a formal but not obnoxious way to phrase it. To my knowledge, the American lower class way to put it is "I gotta pee." In Sweden a "restroom" actually is a room where you can rest in a university, working place etc.
Quote from: TheoK on September 17, 2009, 11:44:47 AMQuote from: PMS Elle on September 17, 2009, 07:33:22 AMI say "restroom" more often than "bathroom" (unless it actually is a bathroom), which is something I picked up when I lived in Florida and it never went away, I think. "The little girl's room" is traditionally what snobby women would call it, and "the ladies' room" is a formal but not obnoxious way to phrase it. To my knowledge, the American lower class way to put it is "I gotta pee." In Sweden a "restroom" actually is a room where you can rest in a university, working place etc. Thought they were called prayer rooms these days?
Quote from: odeon on September 17, 2009, 12:10:03 AMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on September 16, 2009, 03:09:54 PMQuote from: odeon on September 16, 2009, 02:50:34 PMQuote from: PMS Elle on September 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PMQuote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?You'd have to carefully study the Brits to get that. It's a strict class hierarchy, still. Someone using the word "toilet" instead of, say, "loo", will instantly be recognise as lower class or lower middle class (worse).I think you have it the other way around, "Loo" is the lower class one out of the two. Or even lower, use "Bog" or "Crapper". That's what I thought, too, when I used "toilet" in place of "loo", and was told off by a certain witch who used to post here. According to her (and a sociologist who wrote about the English in a book I can't remember the title of, right now), "loo" is higher up.The explanation seems to be that if you really are upper class, you don't have to care. Reverse logic but it makes sense.It used to be that way - Vivi's knowledge is a little out of date now.
Quote from: Christopher McCandless on September 17, 2009, 06:19:04 AMQuote from: odeon on September 17, 2009, 12:10:03 AMQuote from: Christopher McCandless on September 16, 2009, 03:09:54 PMQuote from: odeon on September 16, 2009, 02:50:34 PMQuote from: PMS Elle on September 15, 2009, 05:53:02 PMQuote from: odeon on September 15, 2009, 03:18:11 PMYou'd still use a word like "toilet" and instantly (and forever) mark yourself as the filth you are. ...huh?You'd have to carefully study the Brits to get that. It's a strict class hierarchy, still. Someone using the word "toilet" instead of, say, "loo", will instantly be recognise as lower class or lower middle class (worse).I think you have it the other way around, "Loo" is the lower class one out of the two. Or even lower, use "Bog" or "Crapper". That's what I thought, too, when I used "toilet" in place of "loo", and was told off by a certain witch who used to post here. According to her (and a sociologist who wrote about the English in a book I can't remember the title of, right now), "loo" is higher up.The explanation seems to be that if you really are upper class, you don't have to care. Reverse logic but it makes sense.It used to be that way - Vivi's knowledge is a little out of date now. And the English sociologist?
The book was published in 2004 so it's not that old, and since then I've seen quite a few references at Google indicating the same thing. I suspect it's an age-related thing, though, meaning that the younger generation is less likely to observe that particular set of unwritten rules.Do you have a sociology department at your uni? If so, I'd be interested in knowing their views.