propaganda and lies about the NHS

[Blasted]

One thing which has been missed off - anyone in the UK can buy private health insurance and over 10% of the population do so. The irony is that the NHS has to spend money very often clearing up mistakes in private hospitals.

So in short in the UK we have a brilliant level of basic healthcare and for the few snobs which are not satisfied, there is private healthcare - which thanks to the NHS, in order to compete the prices are usually reasonable.

I don't think private healthcare is all that bad.  It's certainly more efficient and less time-consuming.  I tried private psychotherapy for a while before our insurance ran out (the guy charged 400 pounds for an hour  ) and I have to say, I quite liked it.  We were desperate and the NHS was taking fucking ages.  One time when I was younger, it took the NHS 7 months to find me a psychotherapist.  I would definitely recommend that aspect of private healthcare.  They get things done 

Private healthcare isnt a bad thing (unlike private education) because you are not massively disadvatanged in most cases for not having it. I am more curious as to how a psychotherapist managed to give you £400/hour benefit.

Well he did nearly manage to give me my BPD dx.  Unfortunately the money ran out too soon so I only managed 3-4 sessions with him.  He was obviously full of bs at times (like when he was apparently fascinated by what music I listen to) but then all psychotherapists are to a certain degree.  The one I have now is fucking stupid 

Still, £1600 for a bipolar diagnosis seems a bit ridiculous - I reckon it could be done a lot more cheaply. I must be doing the wrong degree if you can earn £400 an hour as a shrink, though I could go into banking I guess (well if I could stand the people there anyway).

I visited a counsellor once (just to prove a point with my doctor) and it was such a waste of time - no idea how it helps people.

Not bipolar but Bordeline Personality Disorder   It helps to have someone who's completely impartial to you, listen to your whining for a while.  At least it helps me.

Apparently, in LA animal shrinks get thousands of dollars   

[Christopher McCandless]

One thing which has been missed off - anyone in the UK can buy private health insurance and over 10% of the population do so. The irony is that the NHS has to spend money very often clearing up mistakes in private hospitals.

So in short in the UK we have a brilliant level of basic healthcare and for the few snobs which are not satisfied, there is private healthcare - which thanks to the NHS, in order to compete the prices are usually reasonable.

I don't think private healthcare is all that bad.  It's certainly more efficient and less time-consuming.  I tried private psychotherapy for a while before our insurance ran out (the guy charged 400 pounds for an hour  ) and I have to say, I quite liked it.  We were desperate and the NHS was taking fucking ages.  One time when I was younger, it took the NHS 7 months to find me a psychotherapist.  I would definitely recommend that aspect of private healthcare.  They get things done 

Private healthcare isnt a bad thing (unlike private education) because you are not massively disadvatanged in most cases for not having it. I am more curious as to how a psychotherapist managed to give you £400/hour benefit.

Well he did nearly manage to give me my BPD dx.  Unfortunately the money ran out too soon so I only managed 3-4 sessions with him.  He was obviously full of bs at times (like when he was apparently fascinated by what music I listen to) but then all psychotherapists are to a certain degree.  The one I have now is fucking stupid 

Still, £1600 for a bipolar diagnosis seems a bit ridiculous - I reckon it could be done a lot more cheaply. I must be doing the wrong degree if you can earn £400 an hour as a shrink, though I could go into banking I guess (well if I could stand the people there anyway).

I visited a counsellor once (just to prove a point with my doctor) and it was such a waste of time - no idea how it helps people.

Not bipolar but Bordeline Personality Disorder   It helps to have someone who's completely impartial to you, listen to your whining for a while.  At least it helps me.

Apparently, in LA animal shrinks get thousands of dollars   

Sorry, I slept through most of my psychology lectures, all they did was cite their own papers for the most part. £400 for someone to listen for an hour still seems a bit ridiculous to me, in any case.

[Phlexor]

One thing which has been missed off - anyone in the UK can buy private health insurance and over 10% of the population do so. The irony is that the NHS has to spend money very often clearing up mistakes in private hospitals.

So in short in the UK we have a brilliant level of basic healthcare and for the few snobs which are not satisfied, there is private healthcare - which thanks to the NHS, in order to compete the prices are usually reasonable.

I don't think private healthcare is all that bad.  It's certainly more efficient and less time-consuming.  I tried private psychotherapy for a while before our insurance ran out (the guy charged 400 pounds for an hour  ) and I have to say, I quite liked it.  We were desperate and the NHS was taking fucking ages.  One time when I was younger, it took the NHS 7 months to find me a psychotherapist.  I would definitely recommend that aspect of private healthcare.  They get things done 

Private healthcare isnt a bad thing (unlike private education) because you are not massively disadvatanged in most cases for not having it. I am more curious as to how a psychotherapist managed to give you £400/hour benefit.

Well he did nearly manage to give me my BPD dx.  Unfortunately the money ran out too soon so I only managed 3-4 sessions with him.  He was obviously full of bs at times (like when he was apparently fascinated by what music I listen to) but then all psychotherapists are to a certain degree.  The one I have now is fucking stupid 

Still, £1600 for a bipolar diagnosis seems a bit ridiculous - I reckon it could be done a lot more cheaply. I must be doing the wrong degree if you can earn £400 an hour as a shrink, though I could go into banking I guess (well if I could stand the people there anyway).

I visited a counsellor once (just to prove a point with my doctor) and it was such a waste of time - no idea how it helps people.

Not bipolar but Bordeline Personality Disorder   It helps to have someone who's completely impartial to you, listen to your whining for a while.  At least it helps me.

Apparently, in LA animal shrinks get thousands of dollars   

Borderline Personality Disorder just means that the shrink really has no idea what is wrong with you except that you are messed up in the head somewhere.

[Adam]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

[Adam]

i have a social worker now btw, and they've been round to my housea few times. seem really nice. the individual people themselves are often great. the people behind the scenes often just don't give a shit

[Blasted]

One thing which has been missed off - anyone in the UK can buy private health insurance and over 10% of the population do so. The irony is that the NHS has to spend money very often clearing up mistakes in private hospitals.

So in short in the UK we have a brilliant level of basic healthcare and for the few snobs which are not satisfied, there is private healthcare - which thanks to the NHS, in order to compete the prices are usually reasonable.

I don't think private healthcare is all that bad.  It's certainly more efficient and less time-consuming.  I tried private psychotherapy for a while before our insurance ran out (the guy charged 400 pounds for an hour  ) and I have to say, I quite liked it.  We were desperate and the NHS was taking fucking ages.  One time when I was younger, it took the NHS 7 months to find me a psychotherapist.  I would definitely recommend that aspect of private healthcare.  They get things done 

Private healthcare isnt a bad thing (unlike private education) because you are not massively disadvatanged in most cases for not having it. I am more curious as to how a psychotherapist managed to give you £400/hour benefit.

Well he did nearly manage to give me my BPD dx.  Unfortunately the money ran out too soon so I only managed 3-4 sessions with him.  He was obviously full of bs at times (like when he was apparently fascinated by what music I listen to) but then all psychotherapists are to a certain degree.  The one I have now is fucking stupid 

Still, £1600 for a bipolar diagnosis seems a bit ridiculous - I reckon it could be done a lot more cheaply. I must be doing the wrong degree if you can earn £400 an hour as a shrink, though I could go into banking I guess (well if I could stand the people there anyway).

I visited a counsellor once (just to prove a point with my doctor) and it was such a waste of time - no idea how it helps people.

Not bipolar but Bordeline Personality Disorder   It helps to have someone who's completely impartial to you, listen to your whining for a while.  At least it helps me.

Apparently, in LA animal shrinks get thousands of dollars   

Borderline Personality Disorder just means that the shrink really has no idea what is wrong with you except that you are messed up in the head somewhere.

At least he gave my fucked-up-ness a name  :lol:

[Christopher McCandless]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

[Adam]

the guy who diagnosed me with AS seemed to understand things much better


the usual ones might be good at what they do, but they do it the same way they would with a normal person. and I reckon that often doesn't help with us. the counselors and psychs i've seen haven't really understood AS at all

[Phlexor]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

[TheoK]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not sure about that. Most shrinks I ever had just pointed out my difficulties, not my skills.

[Phlexor]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not sure about that. Most shrinks I ever had just pointed out my difficulties, not my skills.

Thing is, he wasn't talking about most shrinks, he was talking about autism specialists.

The thing is, you need a trained specialist to DX you properly in order to rule out something else. Hadron thinks that it's perfectly okay to DX yourself because he, like a lot of other people who self DX, think they know better than a trained professional.

[TheoK]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not sure about that. Most shrinks I ever had just pointed out my difficulties, not my skills.

Thing is, he wasn't talking about most shrinks, he was talking about autism specialists.

The thing is, you need a trained specialist to DX you properly in order to rule out something else. Hadron thinks that it's perfectly okay to DX yourself because he, like a lot of other people who self DX, think they know better than a trained professional.

I'm sorry to say this but he might very well be right. I don't trust "specialists" even autism "specialists".

[Phlexor]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not sure about that. Most shrinks I ever had just pointed out my difficulties, not my skills.

Thing is, he wasn't talking about most shrinks, he was talking about autism specialists.

The thing is, you need a trained specialist to DX you properly in order to rule out something else. Hadron thinks that it's perfectly okay to DX yourself because he, like a lot of other people who self DX, think they know better than a trained professional.

I'm sorry to say this but he might very well be right. I don't trust "specialists" even autism "specialists".

That's because you are a paranoid fuckwit though. 

[TheoK]

 

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[Christopher McCandless]

oh man yeah I hate it when people you're paying to help you sort your head out pretend to be interetsted in the music you listen to and try and talk to you about it.  I really hate pointless conversations in person

I only had to see a psych one time to get my AS diagnosis.he diagnosed me with social anxiety disorder while i was there.

I dunno if I technically have an OCD diagnosis, but I've been on meds for it and seen a psych for it so pretty much

I seriously doubt whether most psychs who don't specialise in autism can really help people with AS. it never happens with me anyway. dunno

I wonder how much people who specialise in Autism help either. We should diagnose each other, would be a lot more effective.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not sure about that. Most shrinks I ever had just pointed out my difficulties, not my skills.

Thing is, he wasn't talking about most shrinks, he was talking about autism specialists.

The thing is, you need a trained specialist to DX you properly in order to rule out something else. Hadron thinks that it's perfectly okay to DX yourself because he, like a lot of other people who self DX, think they know better than a trained professional.

Autism specialists are pretty up themselves and the amount of trouble some people go through to get diagnosed borders on the ridiculous. As for myself, I was diagnosed very young, when the criteria work better.

But suppose our juries (carefully selected and trained so they know the differences between anything similar) would be a lot more efficient than having to go to some arrogant psychologist. You forget that much of the "facts" on Autism are there for commercial reasons, making the integrity of psychologist in diagnosing us quite questionable in many cases.