propaganda and lies about the NHS

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And we could watch 

[TheoK]

Or put give TheoK the chance to hide safely in a glass box. Where he can sit and watch and mutter about the stupidity of humankind.

Would be a win-win situation.

I knew it! I knew it! You work for the Computer God and the hangman rope sneak parrotting puppet scum-on-top! 

['andersom']

And since we are concerned about general health here,

Staircases are the most dangerous things in a house.

Let's ban them too, by law. They probably are more dangerous than guns.

(I, do prefer a staircase in my house over a gun btw)

Swimming pools are actually more dangerous than guns. There are only 6 million private swimming pools in the US and yet 450 kids were killed by swimming pools there last year. 100 times more than by guns by percentage.

I think here swimming pools are also used to prevent drowning. Kids learn to swim. Before there were swimminglessons, a lot more children died of drowning. And banning all open water would not be an option.

No matter what you'll do, life is a lethal condition. In the end, we all will die. There is no need to speed it up by guns. Somehow statistics and economic policies and public opinion does accept the amount of deaths by car as a price for the benefits of the car. It is debatable. But it is a different debate than the debate about guns.

National health service will have to be payed by everyone. Such a sharing concept is debatable. I am in favour of sharing the costs of that.  And this is also a different debate than the debate about guns.

There is a connection in that it is about life and death. But they are different topics.

['andersom']

Or put give TheoK the chance to hide safely in a glass box. Where he can sit and watch and mutter about the stupidity of humankind.

Would be a win-win situation.

I knew it! I knew it! You work for the Computer God and the hangman rope sneak parrotting puppet scum-on-top! 

No, I'm dutch, I want my share of the big-brother way of making money. And just watching you will do very well.

We'll make sure that you have fresh flowers every week. And in spring we'll get you red tulips. 

[TheoK]

Shush, wench! I know what I'm talking about!

Dec

[Christopher McCandless]

being against gun ownership is usually not because of ignorance. and i think people in europe tend to support free speech more, if anything

Yes it is. Most cowardly gun haters (a tautology) have usually never touched a gun IRL. They think about guns as something with an evil "power" or something. It's just a piece of some hundred grams of metal/plastic/wood, some grams of nitrocellulose and some milligrams of lead azide.

how does that change anything? it could be made of fluff and feathers and that wouldn't change a thing. people aren't stupid

Yes, people are stupid. They don't think in a rational way. Why not starting with banning cars, tobacco and alcohol, if you want to save lives? Each one of them kills a hell of a lot more people than guns, but the stupid mob just believe what the politicians and the media tells them.

Those two generally take a fair amount of time and uses to kill, if they kill at all.  A gun could kill you in a few seconds.

What does it matter? 435000 Americans die of tobacco every year, but you don't hear hysterical cries for banning of cigarettes.

Simple - kill one, scare 1000. Hence why guns are seen as more dangerous, fear is the ultimate form of power. Not to mention that people choose to smoke ciggies and the death is almost invisible.

[matthe]

back to the original topic, you should just ignore the sarah palin giberish that you see on your tv. she is paid by the deep pockets of health care, chempharm, and insurance companys.

just dont watch that channel anymore. news-e is propaganda.

[Adam]

i don't watch the news on tv that much anymore. most of what i've noticed about this has been from online.

it was when i saw how many idiots on facebook seemed to be believing this kind of shit that i decided to ask about it.

['andersom']

Strange how sharing responsibilities so quickly can turn into anxiety about commies.

[matthe]

i don't watch the news on tv that much anymore. most of what i've noticed about this has been from online.

it was when i saw how many idiots on facebook seemed to be believing this kind of shit that i decided to ask about it.

facebook is propaganda too, to an extent, depends on who are your friends, but that site in general has a conservative vibe to it.

myspace is owned by news e directly

back to the original topic, you should just ignore the sarah palin giberish that you see on your media box. she is paid by the deep pockets of health care, chempharm, and insurance companys.

just dont watch that channel anymore. news-e is propaganda.

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[Adam]

i don't think anyone on my friends list has actually commented on it (at least not that i've seen)

it was mostly from the polls on there that i noticed how common it seemed to be - obviously most of the polls on there are american-oriented, and the healthcare reforms and/or obama were cropping up a hell of a lot

i haven't used myspace regularly since 2006

[TheoK]

Strange how sharing responsibilities so quickly can turn into anxiety about commies.

No, they actually got a point. I met a friend from a former communist country some weeks ago. He said that he could never live in Sweden, becuase it reminded him too much of his own country during the communist time; too much laws and shit and incredibly high prices on everything.

[Phlexor]

Lit, why the fuck do you feel you need to take over this thread with your gun bullshit? There are several other thread where you could talk about guns because they are already about guns.

Fuck off so we can talk about the original stuff with out people questions and such being buried by your shit talk.

['andersom']

Strange how sharing responsibilities so quickly can turn into anxiety about commies.

No, they actually got a point. I met a friend from a former communist country some weeks ago. He said that he could never live in Sweden, becuase it reminded him too much of his own country during the communist time; too much laws and shit and incredibly high prices on everything.

Makes no sense. Prices for a lot of things went up dramatically in the former GDR after it reunited. And well, you would call Germany socialist too I guess.

If there is one proud of benefiting from the social system, it is you btw Lit.

Change it to a fully capitalistic system, and you could be living in the streets, maybe with a found throws away hot piece in you possession.

[TheoK]