RAPE versus MURDER

[Adam]

I support the death penalty in cases where it's 100% certain they're guilty. Why fuck around spending money on looking after them for the rest of their lives when there are more important things to spend money on?

tbh I think the best thing would be to test things on them.

People are always moaning about how we have to test things on animals. Well solve two problems at once - plenty of human guinea pigs to use, while saving the innocent monkeys and rats. It'd give more accurate results as well - we're more genetically similar to Ian Huntley or Ted Bundy than to a rat (unfortunately)

Might as well put up second Auschwitzes (and that is a one dodgy plural  ) while we're at it.  Hitler though it was perfectly okay to test shit out on humans 

Although a part of me does agree with what you're saying.  I would mind killing my stepdad or Sophie's dad.  Still, death penalty brings us down to the level of a killer or a rapist.  Who cares if it's done in a technically more "humane" way than their crimes?  It's still killing a human being.

Hitler chose people becuase of what they were though. Not what they'd done. They had no choice. Child abusers and serial killers forfeit their rights when they do whatever it is they do imo.

Also killing isn't really that bad. It's over pretty quickly if done right, and then nothing. Killing a human being isn't the worst thing people can do by far

[DieMenschMaschine]

I support the death penalty in cases where it's 100% certain they're guilty. Why fuck around spending money on looking after them for the rest of their lives when there are more important things to spend money on?

tbh I think the best thing would be to test things on them.

People are always moaning about how we have to test things on animals. Well solve two problems at once - plenty of human guinea pigs to use, while saving the innocent monkeys and rats. It'd give more accurate results as well - we're more genetically similar to Ian Huntley or Ted Bundy than to a rat (unfortunately)

Agreed.

Didn't you just write you don't want your taxes going to funding prisoners and you'd rather them be put to death? Now, a post later and you change your mind. You rather your tax money going to funding the prisoner life in prison  and paying for human testing? Which is it?

Bint I'm in love with you

[RageBeoulve]

I support the death penalty in cases where it's 100% certain they're guilty. Why fuck around spending money on looking after them for the rest of their lives when there are more important things to spend money on?

tbh I think the best thing would be to test things on them.

People are always moaning about how we have to test things on animals. Well solve two problems at once - plenty of human guinea pigs to use, while saving the innocent monkeys and rats. It'd give more accurate results as well - we're more genetically similar to Ian Huntley or Ted Bundy than to a rat (unfortunately)

Agreed.

Didn't you just write you don't want your taxes going to funding prisoners and you'd rather them be put to death? Now, a post later and you change your mind. You rather your tax money going to funding the prisoner life in prison  and paying for human testing? Which is it?

Bint I'm in love with you

Well most of the testing kills the subject. Its not about them dying anyway. Its about them absorbing money and not doing anything to earn it.

[Adam]

I support the death penalty in cases where it's 100% certain they're guilty. Why fuck around spending money on looking after them for the rest of their lives when there are more important things to spend money on?

tbh I think the best thing would be to test things on them.

People are always moaning about how we have to test things on animals. Well solve two problems at once - plenty of human guinea pigs to use, while saving the innocent monkeys and rats. It'd give more accurate results as well - we're more genetically similar to Ian Huntley or Ted Bundy than to a rat (unfortunately)

Agreed.

Didn't you just write you don't want your taxes going to funding prisoners and you'd rather them be put to death? Now, a post later and you change your mind. You rather your tax money going to funding the prisoner life in prison  and paying for human testing? Which is it?

Bint I'm in love with you

Well most of the testing kills the subject. Its not about them dying anyway. Its about them absorbing money and not doing anything to earn it.

Yeah that's pretty much how I see it too

[Phlexor]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

[Callaway]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

[ANTON_UBER_ALLES]

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The MOST cost effective way to deal with murderers is to have them killed by other inmates!
Like Jeffrey Dahmer for example; if he had been given a death sentence he would Still be alive today in solitary confinement writing his memoirs. Instead he got a life sentence and another inmate took care of him.

[Parts]

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The MOST cost effective way to deal with murderers is to have them killed by other inmates!
Like Jeffrey Dahmer for example; if he had been given a death sentence he would Still be alive today in solitary confinement writing his memoirs. Instead he got a life sentence and another inmate took care of him.

I am against the death penalty but like I said caught in the act you get what you deserve.  As far as people like Jeffrey Dahmer he should have been in a mental hospital instead of prison and been the focus of intense study on what the fuck went wrong with him and how can we stop it in other people the rest of his life. 

[ANTON_UBER_ALLES]

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The MOST cost effective way to deal with murderers is to have them killed by other inmates!
Like Jeffrey Dahmer for example; if he had been given a death sentence he would Still be alive today in solitary confinement writing his memoirs. Instead he got a life sentence and another inmate took care of him.

I am against the death penalty but like I said caught in the act you get what you deserve.  As far as people like Jeffrey Dahmer he should have been in a mental hospital instead of prison and been the focus of intense study on what the fuck went wrong with him and how can we stop it in other people the rest of his life.  

Sounds to me like you feel sorry for him a little bit, I personally Do Not. I think it would be far more fruitful to literally pick apart Dahmers post-mortem brain than allow him to live in a mental hospital. What happened to Jeffrey Dahmer was nothing short of poetic justice.

[P7PSP]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The main reason that it costs so much to execute prisoners is the endless appeals by the sob sisters that can't bear the thought of people like Richard Allen Davis and Tookie Williams getting their just desserts. I find the use of that particular argument by the antis to be quite disingenuous given that they deliberately preserve the lives of the likes of Robert Alton Harris et al to the best of their ability.

[vodz]

I'd prefer rape to murder. The victims are reusable.

[Alex179]

I'd prefer rape to murder. The victims are reusable.

It isn't rape if they are already dead.

[Silk]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The main reason that it costs so much to execute prisoners is the endless appeals by the sob sisters that can't bear the thought of people like Richard Allen Davis and Tookie Williams getting their just desserts. I find the use of that particular argument by the antis to be quite disingenuous given that they deliberately preserve the lives of the likes of Robert Alton Harris et al to the best of their ability.

It doesn't help that we have to make their executions so fucking complicated. Electric chair, lethal injection? Fuck that. If they're guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, then why not just shoot them, and get it over with? I feel like Seth Green's character in the Austin Powers movie when Dr. Evil just couldn't kill Powers right there and then.

Scott Evil: I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!

Why can't people make things this simple?

[Callaway]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The main reason that it costs so much to execute prisoners is the endless appeals by the sob sisters that can't bear the thought of people like Richard Allen Davis and Tookie Williams getting their just desserts. I find the use of that particular argument by the antis to be quite disingenuous given that they deliberately preserve the lives of the likes of Robert Alton Harris et al to the best of their ability.

It doesn't help that we have to make their executions so fucking complicated. Electric chair, lethal injection? Fuck that. If they're guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, then why not just shoot them, and get it over with? I feel like Seth Green's character in the Austin Powers movie when Dr. Evil just couldn't kill Powers right there and then.

Scott Evil: I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!

Why can't people make things this simple?

I think that the reason for so many appeals is that sometimes we convict innocent people.

I think that Utah may still have the firing squad as a method of execution, though.

[RageBeoulve]

The only difference between the two for me is what I'll do to the person who tries to make me a victim in either incident.


Murder: Unless the person is armed or using an incendiary device, they die. Unfortunately, I'll be too afraid to make it slow, but I will...end...them.

Rape: Same result except I will be angry enough to get creative.


My hatred of rapists is probably irrational, but I can't help it. I hate being touched without my permission, and for someone to force themselves on another person like that, is the greatest torture I can imagine(other than watching loved ones be hurt/killed). Maybe it's because I'm a bit of a control freak.

In all honesty, your hatred of rapists is PERFECTLY Rational! They are a serious threat to your saftey, your emotional well being, and your genetic self-interest.


So tell me SorceressPol, do rapists deserved to get raped in prison? I say hell yes

Either caught in the act deserve what they get

The existence of Prison Rape is one of the reasons why Im actually NOT much of a supporter of the death penalty except in certain extreme cases. Life w/out parole(and PC) as Bubba's Bitch most definitely IS a fate worse than Death!

In a way, I agree with you. I think they should actually kill a lot more prisoners though in order to reduce pressure on the tax paying citizen.

Perhaps they could tone down the drug laws and there would be less prisoners. I mean clearly they aren't working out too well. Going to jail for possesion doesn't seem to be the deterrent it cracked up to be.

 

Executing prisoners does not really save money.  It costs substantially more to execute a prisoner than it costs to let him live the rest of his life in prison.  Also, what should be done if an innocent person is convicted of a crime and executed?

The main reason that it costs so much to execute prisoners is the endless appeals by the sob sisters that can't bear the thought of people like Richard Allen Davis and Tookie Williams getting their just desserts. I find the use of that particular argument by the antis to be quite disingenuous given that they deliberately preserve the lives of the likes of Robert Alton Harris et al to the best of their ability.

It doesn't help that we have to make their executions so fucking complicated. Electric chair, lethal injection? Fuck that. If they're guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, then why not just shoot them, and get it over with? I feel like Seth Green's character in the Austin Powers movie when Dr. Evil just couldn't kill Powers right there and then.

Scott Evil: I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!

Why can't people make things this simple?

I think that the reason for so many appeals is that sometimes we convict innocent people.

I think that Utah may still have the firing squad as a method of execution, though.

Fuck the firing squad. I think that if someone is guilty of a rape, child molesting or any kind of a crime like that..

The judge should be armed and shoot the criminal in the head on the spot. No sending them to prison and griefing the taxpaying people. Just take care of the criminal right away for the price of a bullet.