What did you eat today?

[SovaNu]

i'm so used to needing to be wasted or at least buzzed it feels weird that i'm relying on supplements and stuff... but booze makes me so depressed and i've started to have crying fits and bad OCD when i'm drunk. i don't think abstaining works for me though. but then if i try to drink a little it turns into a lot and then too fucking much. lol.

you're smart not to drink, fishie. i dunno why i'm so drawn to that rotten substance.

[Calandale]

meh, an argument could be made that it was an invalid vote, because it was an attempt to do something that generally is NOT done, here.

This site has no moderators, so a vote to perform moderation functions is a foul to start with, even before the voting starts.

Thus, invalid.

 :lol:

So, we NEVER had anything even
resembling a democracy? Nothing
was ever allowed to be changed,
unless the current despotism would
have done so? Interesting stance -
no wonder you opposed the existence
of our voting rights.

[Parts]

Pizza and salad with extra peppers and tomatoes

[ozymandias]

leftover beef stew

[DirtDawg]

meh, an argument could be made that it was an invalid vote, because it was an attempt to do something that generally is NOT done, here.

This site has no moderators, so a vote to perform moderation functions is a foul to start with, even before the voting starts.

Thus, invalid.

 :lol:

So, we NEVER had anything even
resembling a democracy? Nothing
was ever allowed to be changed,
unless the current despotism would
have done so? Interesting stance -
no wonder you opposed the existence
of our voting rights.

Go back, re-read.

I was never against our voting rights. I was simply for our freedoms.

What I saw was our freedoms being removed on a daily basis by the need for constant attention to a pollhappy few who chose to vote on every aspect of life, rather than living and letting to live. Without constant attention, our so-called voting rights would have ruined this site. That in itself was a removal of our freedoms.

I am more interested in a free forum than one which has buttloads of protocols.

You and Scr'eap can kiss my ASS, after you brush your fucking teeth, that is.

[Calandale]

meh, an argument could be made that it was an invalid vote, because it was an attempt to do something that generally is NOT done, here.

This site has no moderators, so a vote to perform moderation functions is a foul to start with, even before the voting starts.

Thus, invalid.

 :lol:

So, we NEVER had anything even
resembling a democracy? Nothing
was ever allowed to be changed,
unless the current despotism would
have done so? Interesting stance -
no wonder you opposed the existence
of our voting rights.

Go back, re-read.

I was never against our voting rights. I was simply for our freedoms.

What I saw was our freedoms being removed on a daily basis by the need for constant attention to a pollhappy few who chose to vote on every aspect of life, rather than living and letting to live. Without constant attention, our so-called voting rights would have ruined this site. That in itself was a removal of our freedoms.

I am more interested in a free forum than one which has buttloads of protocols.

You and Scr'eap can kiss my ASS, after you brush your fucking teeth, that is.

Well, even though you don't WANT to argue,
you are continuing. THAT particular poll was
cut and dry. A fairly large number of people
voted, ALL understanding the issues. It came
down to moving a thread whose owner wasn't
even here. When Odeon made his retaliation, there
was no thought of trying to moderate that.

Still, EVEN if the membership had decided in favor
of actual moderation, shouldn't we have been allowed
to? Or, do your principles stand above the will of the
people, whenever you take on some holy aura? Because,
if it's the latter, that simply isn't democracy - which explains,
as I said, why you couldn't stomach it.

[SovaNu]

uh oh. if you guys start debating here i will flee to the other 2 eating threads.

[odeon]

Well, even though you don't WANT to argue,
you are continuing. THAT particular poll was
cut and dry. A fairly large number of people
voted, ALL understanding the issues. It came
down to moving a thread whose owner wasn't
even here. When Odeon made his retaliation, there
was no thought of trying to moderate that.

Untrue. Hadron planned to move my thread, too, and merge it with this one.

[odeon]

meh, an argument could be made that it was an invalid vote, because it was an attempt to do something that generally is NOT done, here.

This site has no moderators, so a vote to perform moderation functions is a foul to start with, even before the voting starts.

Thus, invalid.

 :lol:

So, we NEVER had anything even
resembling a democracy? Nothing
was ever allowed to be changed,
unless the current despotism would
have done so? Interesting stance -
no wonder you opposed the existence
of our voting rights.

Go back, re-read.

I was never against our voting rights. I was simply for our freedoms.

What I saw was our freedoms being removed on a daily basis by the need for constant attention to a pollhappy few who chose to vote on every aspect of life, rather than living and letting to live. Without constant attention, our so-called voting rights would have ruined this site. That in itself was a removal of our freedoms.

I am more interested in a free forum than one which has buttloads of protocols.

You and Scr'eap can kiss my ASS, after you brush your fucking teeth, that is.

 

[Callaway]

meh, an argument could be made that it was an invalid vote, because it was an attempt to do something that generally is NOT done, here.

This site has no moderators, so a vote to perform moderation functions is a foul to start with, even before the voting starts.

Thus, invalid.

 :lol:

So, we NEVER had anything even
resembling a democracy? Nothing
was ever allowed to be changed,
unless the current despotism would
have done so? Interesting stance -
no wonder you opposed the existence
of our voting rights.

Go back, re-read.

I was never against our voting rights. I was simply for our freedoms.

What I saw was our freedoms being removed on a daily basis by the need for constant attention to a pollhappy few who chose to vote on every aspect of life, rather than living and letting to live. Without constant attention, our so-called voting rights would have ruined this site. That in itself was a removal of our freedoms.

I am more interested in a free forum than one which has buttloads of protocols.

You and Scr'eap can kiss my ASS, after you brush your fucking teeth, that is.

Well, even though you don't WANT to argue,
you are continuing. THAT particular poll was
cut and dry. A fairly large number of people
voted, ALL understanding the issues. It came
down to moving a thread whose owner wasn't
even here. When Odeon made his retaliation, there
was no thought of trying to moderate that.

Hadron threatened to merge Odeon's thread with this one and he moved this one before the vote was even finished, Calandale.  Do you really not remember this?  Here is a link to refresh your recollection:

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=6303.msg282317#msg282317

Why should a thread be moved when it is in a perfectly good place to start with, just because the person who started it is no longer a member?  It says in the board description of "What's Your Crime? Basic Discussion" "Feel free to talk about anything and everything in this board."   

I know that this "What did you eat today?" thread is just one thread, but when we start doing stuff like that, we start sliding down the slippery slope to being a moderated forum and that was the direction that you were pushing us in.  That's why Odeon started the other "What did you eat today?" thread, not as retaliation.

Triste started some other threads too, but you started the vote to move this one just because it was a personal annoyance to you being there.  I'm surprised that you didn't start a vote to move "Questions for Callaway" to the Ask Away threads next since Triste started that one too and you questioned why it was on the same board.  Instead, Scrapheap just deleted it because Hadron made him an administrator.

The real reason people voted to turn the site back over to Dunc and Odeon and have things go back to being like they were before we started the World Council is because you treated it as your personal playground and with every new decision you forced on us, you pushed us closer to being a moderated board.  At least Scrapheap was more up-front with us and tried to force his rules on us all at once, but you were more insidious. 

[ozymandias]

Sorry folks, but this is an old and tired  debate.  I'm going to go eat a snack, Chips or crisps as they're called across the pond.  Have some tea and read my sunday papers.

I'll be back later when this  "debate" has run it's course!

 

 

[Callaway]

Sorry folks, but this is an old and tired  debate.  I'm going to go eat a snack, Chips or crisps as they're called across the pond.  Have some tea and read my sunday papers.

I'll be back later when this  "debate" has run it's course!

 

 

Sorry, Ozymandias.  Until this debate runs its course, why don't you post what you eat here instead?

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=6303.0

 

[Calandale]

Hadron threatened to merge Odeon's thread with this one and he moved this one before the vote was even finished, Calandale.  Do you really not remember this?  Here is a link to refresh your recollection:

Yes. I really don't. It wasn't worth it.
There was NO thought in my mind.
Once the arguments were made, I
was convinced that doing such to a
current member's thread, would've
been wrong. So, now we have to
get into the realm of arguing whether
Haddy's posts involve thought - some
would disagree. 

Why should a thread be moved when it is in a perfectly good place to start with, just because the person who started it is no longer a member?  It says in the board description of "What's Your Crime? Basic Discussion" "Feel free to talk about anything and everything in this board."

   

Sure. But why was the game section started,
and what was the history? It's kinda nice to
separate all the inane shit into one place.

I know that this "What did you eat today?" thread is just one thread, but when we start doing stuff like that, we start sliding down the slippery slope to being a moderated forum and that was the direction that you were pushing us in.  That's why Odeon started the other "What did you eat today?" thread, not as retaliation.

His starting the thread did NOTHING to prevent
us from sliding down that slope. And, once the
discussion was out, I realized that my original
intent WAS moderation. But, there's a BIG difference
between moderation done by a huge majority of the
site's active members, and that done by a single
person. Some moderation takes place, anyhow
(though very little), so it's not like we can claim to
be pristine and free. Sure, it's done in the name of
'site protection' rather than mere whim, but actually,
I find it MORE troublesome to actually prevent certain
forms of speech, than it is to merely try and make things
more orderly - probably just me though.

Triste started some other threads too, but you started the vote to move this one just because it was a personal annoyance to you being there.  I'm surprised that you didn't start a vote to move "Questions for Callaway" to the Ask Away threads next since Triste started that one too and you questioned why it was on the same board.  Instead, Scrapheap just deleted it because Hadron made him an administrator.

Interesting. I certainly would have supported such a move, but
given that it was your thread (in terms of being about you), and
I HAD already asked you (I do so dislike certain kinds of disorder),
no, I wouldn't have tried to get it moved. Much as the voting on
the eat thread showed, I presumed that no one really would be too
upset. When Odeon brought up the issue of moderation, that set me
to pause, but then I think YOU pointed out that triste wasn't really around
to ask. That was enough to ease my conscience on the matter.

The real reason people voted to turn the site back over to Dunc and Odeon and have things go back to being like they were before we started the World Council is because you treated it as your personal playground and with every new decision you forced on us, you pushed us closer to being a moderated board.  At least Scrapheap was more up-front with us and tried to force his rules on us all at once, but you were more insidious. 

Bull. This was the only bloody thing that came
close to moderation. And, it's far less than what
is done here anyway, IMO. The real reason was that
people were fucking sick and tired of dealing with
the meta-issues, of actually limiting the WC, rather
than the actions on the membership. IF I had stuck
to such simple questions, there would've been no
problem at all. Are you really so dense, or is this a
calculated attempt, once again, to discredit using
some altered view of the truth?

[SovaNu]

mushroom soup and OJ and supplements.


but i want beer. i have about 22 or so empty beer cans in my room. they remind me of full beer cans.

[Calandale]

PB&J, not used.