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The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« on: April 04, 2009, 08:05:15 PM »
This is my 1,000th post and I want to do something big and have a little fun too. So, without further adieu:

PMS Elle,

I like you...a lot. I find you amusing, entertaining, fun, insightful, and so on. :eyebrows: But, you have questioned my honesty on here despite the many very detailed and heartfelt posts I have made. ??? I even provide intimate details about myself that many would find easy to ridicule. :-[ Whenever I am full of shit, it is either glaringly obvious or I hone up to it immediately when called out, as it is always for fun. What more can I do? Yes, I love tickle fights! 8)

So let's have at it. A no-holds barred, anything goes, one-on-one with winner take all. Name your terms! Let's do this!!! :headbang2:

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Note: Seriously, this is all in fun.
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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 10:49:01 AM »
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a very smart woman who has seen a lot in her twentysomething years, much beautiful, but much more painful, and not always distinct.  As such, I have a finely calibrated bullshitdar which has proven itself right far more often than not, and far more often than I'd liked for it to have.

I've also, come to think of it, gotten into more than one ridiculously long argument in which someone who was genuinely being very dishonest with me took horrible offense to being called out, even in a gentle way.  Apparently "I know you lied to me, but it's really not a big deal to me, I know the truth, I'm willing to let this drop if you are, can we just move on?" is an unreasonable plea, even when it is addressed to someone who is lying.  (Ironically, both arguments that spring to mind were driven by the other person wanting me to lie and say I believed them.)

I like you, I respect you, and I won't claim you're lying- I can't know that.  I apologize that I did, directly- it would have been more polite to allude, because I had no way of knowing whether you were or not.  I expect people (whether or not they are on the spectrum!  it's universal!) to lie and to present themselves selectively- that doesn't mean I think that all people are so fundamentally manipulative and dishonest that it eclipses all else.

Now, are you joking, are you flirting, or were you legitimately offended/bothered/hurt/etc. by the suggestion that I thought there was a decent chance that you could well be, at the very least, bending the truth (in a couple of posts, in a pretty insignificant thread, in a way that I have seen people bend the truth or outright lie before)?

Rules of the callout will follow from your reply.  Honesty begs that I also say I know people can cover geniune hurt with humor, and if you're doing that, I'm actually rather curious as to what struck deep and why, because, as I said, it's something that has happened before.  What issue, if any, do you want to address?
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 12:26:19 PM »
When I said you were insightful, this is kind of what I was talking about. I have no problem with you questioning me for bullshitting, I just want to clarify that I was not. You are a very wise woman to have a good BS detector!

As I was saying in my callout, this was for fun! I am not questioning your point, but rather thought I'd offer you the opportunity to obtain clarification from me on any subject you might be wondering if I was being genuine or had ulterior motives on.

'Tis true, your are quite an interesting woman! I have a lot of respect for you. I apologize if this came across as anything more than for a little fun! Maybe I have violated the forum's rules in this section!

I am not genuinely upset. I thought I pointed that out in the first place and then in here in my callout! I figured we could have an entertaining, playful bought in here. I can bring the cookies if you like!

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Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 12:29:58 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 12:37:54 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
Crazy, I'm halfway to crazy
Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 12:39:42 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 12:56:28 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?

Condoms? No we did that ad nauseum already!
Crazy, I'm halfway to crazy
Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 03:19:16 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I have no issue to argue, then.  :P

Surely we can come up with something to argue over!
You're probably right, but what?

Condoms? No we did that ad nauseum already!
As far as that debate goes, which side were you on and which side was I on, again?   :zoinks:
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 04:19:36 PM »
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
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Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
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I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 05:36:13 PM »
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
Well then, Mr. creepy-ass voyer, how 'bout we talk about something that's happened at some point within the last several months?  :P
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 06:17:58 PM »
I seem to recall being on the outside looking in! :zoinks:
Well then, Mr. creepy-ass voyeur, how 'bout we talk about something that's happened at some point within the last several months?  :P

 :LMAO:

You love it in when I watch from across the street with my telescope.  :wanker:

Okay, that's even a little creepy for me. Moving along!
Crazy, I'm halfway to crazy
Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 01:02:00 PM »
What the fuck was I on in April?
Crazy, I'm halfway to crazy
Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems

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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 02:35:05 PM »
Bullshitdar lol.

To many feelings flying around hin here. I'm out.
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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 02:41:13 PM »
Quote from: Trigger11
The truth, Trig, is as follows:

I am a woman who has spent twenty odd years climbing her own arse.  As such, I have a finely calibrated bullshitdar which has proven itself right far more often than not, and far more often than I'd liked for it to have. Things do smell nice though.

I've also, come to think of it, gotten into more than one ridiculously long argument in which someone who was genuinely being very dishonest with me took horrible offense to being called out, even in a gentle way.  Apparently "I know you lied to me, but it's really not a big deal to me, I know the truth, I'm willing to let this drop if you are, can we just move on?" is an unreasonable plea, even when it is addressed to someone who is lying.  (Ironically, both arguments that spring to mind were driven by the other person wanting me to lie and say I believed them.)

I like you, I respect you, and I won't claim you're lying- I can't know that. But what I can know is that I am indeed a liar.  I apologize that I did, directly- it would have been more polite to allude, because I had no way of knowing whether you were or not.  I expect people (whether or not they are on the spectrum!  it's universal!) to lie and to present themselves selectively- that doesn't mean I think that all people are so fundamentally manipulative and dishonest that it eclipses all else. I consider myself living proof of this.

Now, are you joking, are you flirting, or were you legitimately offended/bothered/hurt/etc. by the suggestion that I thought there was a decent chance that you could well be, at the very least, bending the truth (in a couple of posts, in a pretty insignificant thread, in a way that I have seen people bend the truth or outright lie before)?

Rules of the callout will follow from your reply (and how I choose to interpret it).  Honesty begs that I also say I know people can cover geniune hurt with humor, and if you're doing that, I'm actually rather curious as to what struck deep and why, because, as I said, it's something that has happened before.  What issue, if any, do you want to address?
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Re: The Truth: It's Time To Answer PMS Elle!
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 03:43:25 PM »
This was a private conversation, so fuck off!
Crazy, I'm halfway to crazy
Suicide would waste me
Homicide would break me
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Tongue tied and tied to the tongue
Oh, is life as bad as dreams
I guess that's just the way it seems