First lets get a couple things out of the way.
The first point in your initial post was that 3rd level thinking would lead you astray, to the wrong answer and associated it with gossip and fantasy. The example of "The Land Of Make Beleive"
Cleary shows this is both false and that 3rd level thinking occurs often, most likely everyday.
Second in the current post you outright say tFor me, knowing that I do now know what the other thinks.
Although we already established that actually knowing how someone will react is impossible, Im assuming you didnt mean that literally or else by default anything above level 1 thinking would be impossible.
Wow, you're a teacher? See, that's what happens when I start thinking about what you might be thinking.
"Although we already established....." language of condecendent doctors and teachers. Oh, and don't forget nurses, "well well now, we have decided that we'd stay calm during taking our temperature"
Maybe you are a teacher, maybe not. Maybe you just picked up this way of speaking as a form of 'odd' language. I don't know. I can think what I want, but it's all guesswork.
If within your thinking you come to the conclusion that you dont know, or the chances of you being able predict reactions is so incredibly low that it becomes useless, that this makes 3rd level thinking impossible. But the milk and fridge example shows, that while 3rd level thinking may seem complicated, its not and the amount of times you dont know, is minuscule in comparison.
And now to the funny part.
None of your examples are of 3rd level thinking, And they all have 3rd level thinking answers.
The dentist example.
Where do you think about the dentists thinking about your thinking and alter your reaction?
The dentist also does not reach the 3rd level.
3rd level- "You realize that the dentist, after thinking about your thinking has come to the conclusion that no pain means nothing wrong. when you know that despite their being no pain that something IS wrong. so you inform him of that.
Nope, problem of the dentist is that he does not listen. He starts thinking instead of gathering enough information first. If he had really listened things would have been different. His problem is that he started thinking about what I should be experiencing. In stead of thinking about the problem. I did not think about what he might think. I reacted on what he said and did. Because I have no idea what he thought. Allthoug I realise I used the word thinking in the story. But he might just as well have thought: "What a silly bat, what is she up too, hope I can get rid of her asap". He may have thought: "Yuk, she's ugly". Or anything else. He might even have been thinking about his mortgage. Taking more X-rays than he needed. I have no idea.
YOU thought about what HE thought about YOUR thinking and changed YOUR reaction.
I did think about what went wrong. Yes, that is true. But not in the way of thinking about thinking.
The overload example
well I actually wont explain this one because its worded exactly like the doctor example. replace real tooth problem with overload/upset and angry with no tooth problem
The overload example, I gave the short version. The longer version is even more revealing how I don't know what she thought.
It was a psychologist I saw for the second time. After a breakdown at work. First session was no good at all. And I had stumbled upon articles about autism on the internet in the meantime. And that made a lot of sense to me.
Second session I had to fill in stupid forms. There was no logic in them at all. I could not do it. She said I was angry. I did not think that she thought I was angry, she said so.
Then she wanted me to throw the forms on the floor, because that would relieve me of my anger. I said I was not angry. She wanted me to throw the things on the floor anyway. To amuse her, (She was getting upset) I threw the papers through the room. She asked me what had happened. I said, the papers are on the floor now. She said: "No, now you feel relieved, because you could express your anger". I said, I am not angry.
At the end of the session she agreed helping me find a place to get diagnosed. And I picked up the papers and handed them to her. She was heavily objecting to that, because it would destroy my getting rid of my anger. (her words in my paraphrasing). Again I said that I was not angry.
She had agreed helping me find a place to go for a diagnose. She did not. In fact, she did everything she could to prevent me getting a diagnose.
I asked for her evaluation of me. There I found on paper what she thought of me. She thought I had more kids than I had. She mixed all kinds of facts in my life. There were more things wrong in what she said about facts than right.
And as a conclusion: Very desintegrated. In need of very strict guidance in daily life. Huge anger issues, denial about that, and very uncooperative. Patient has also the delusional idea that she is on the autistic spectrum, which clearly is not the case. (And she had said to me, that she thought I had traits....)
That is what she was actualy thinking. No way that I could have thought all that.
If she had listened, in stead of all this thinking and assuming, it would have gone a lot better.
And I did react. I did send an angry letter etc. I did complain. But not on what I thought about what she might be thinking. But about how she presented herself in word and action. Because that is something I can react on. The rest is guesswork.
BTW, after that I found a decent place to be diagnosed. Diagnosis was: mentally sane, and Asperger without a doubt.
Funny thing at that centre, the lady I talked to said, I can only listen to your words, if I start thinking about how you appear to be, I guess wrong.
and the last example is exactly the same.
Probably for the best because I just dont have the time to explain everything every day of my fkin life.
Probably for the best indeed that you did not explain it further in detail. It is amusing to see how you think about how I think. But also very tiring. And three explanations in a row, I probably would have thought that that was boring. But you never know. Even my own thoughts can surprise me.
