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[TheoK]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I do, of course. It's the moral obligation to obey the laws of your state, which is absurd, at least if you're a rational person only believing in mutually volountarily agreements, and no such agreement, "social contract", between the people and state does exist, of course.

[El]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time, which I instead wasted posting here.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows where the clitoris actually is, because I sure as hell don't....

fixed.

[TheoK]

OK, John Lennon isn't oppressed by society except when it comes to the FRA law. When will John Lennon feel oppressed for real? When they force him to have a surveillance camera in his own home, so the government can watch him 24/7? When they put a VeriChip inplant into his skin? When they put a chip into his brain?

When that happens, it will be far too late for any resistance. But the foundation was laid by accepting gun "control".

[Parts]

OK, John Lennon isn't oppressed by society except when it comes to the FRA law. When will John Lennon feel oppressed for real? When they force him to have a surveillance camera in his own home, so the government can watch him 24/7? When they put a VeriChip inplant into his skin? When they put a chip into his brain?

When that happens, it will be far too late for any resistance. But the foundation was laid by accepting gun "control".

If you really want to get technical about where the foundation was laid it was way before gun control it was with the start of government itself

[odeon]

There is no political obligation. How can that not be obvious to an intelligent, not self-deluding person?

But like I said before: it's much easier to accept the oppression and laugh at us who tell the truth.

[odeon]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I thought it was hilarious, me.

[odeon]

OK, John Lennon isn't oppressed by society except when it comes to the FRA law. When will John Lennon feel oppressed for real? When they force him to have a surveillance camera in his own home, so the government can watch him 24/7? When they put a VeriChip inplant into his skin? When they put a chip into his brain?

When that happens, it will be far too late for any resistance. But the foundation was laid by accepting gun "control".

John Lennon is dead. You do know that, don't you?

[DirtDawg]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I thought it was hilarious, me.

No, stop it!

Lets have Hadron explain it all to us, who really don't know anything.

 

[DirtDawg]

OK, John Lennon isn't oppressed by society except when it comes to the FRA law. When will John Lennon feel oppressed for real? When they force him to have a surveillance camera in his own home, so the government can watch him 24/7? When they put a VeriChip inplant into his skin? When they put a chip into his brain?

When that happens, it will be far too late for any resistance. But the foundation was laid by accepting gun "control".

John Lennon is dead. You do know that, don't you?

Shot and killed by a handgun in the hands of a psycho, BTW ...

[Christopher McCandless]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I do, of course. It's the moral obligation to obey the laws of your state, which is absurd, at least if you're a rational person only believing in mutually volountarily agreements, and no such agreement, "social contract", between the people and state does exist, of course.

Aha - that would be the basic way of looking it. Though of course, how do we define a state, or even a moral obligation? What state are we obligated to, if any?

In fact I find it rather amusing that Odeon is essentially defending Nationalism, whilst also proclaiming himself to be a socialist. Hmm...

[TheoK]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I do, of course. It's the moral obligation to obey the laws of your state, which is absurd, at least if you're a rational person only believing in mutually volountarily agreements, and no such agreement, "social contract", between the people and state does exist, of course.

Aha - that would be the basic way of looking it. Though of course, how do we define a state, or even a moral obligation? What state are we obligated to, if any?

In fact I find it rather amusing that Odeon is essentially defending Nationalism, whilst also proclaiming himself to be a socialist. Hmm...

 

[Christopher McCandless]

Sorry, just going to have to step in and interrupt the laughter. Most credible moral philosophers don't believe in political obligation these days - so really in academia Lit has more backing than you tbh. Might want to start by reading A. John Simmons, Joseph Raz, Noam Chomsky and so on...

(btw I have spent today in the library pouring over books on the whole matter - so if you fancy arguing here, go for it. Make sure you be able to match my level of pretention first; if you manage to best me without citing the same books I have chosen to read I'll feel like a loser for wasting my day)

Fixed.

Rather unfunny. Just thought I would point out that I chose to read about Political Obligation because its a way of getting my 3 essays that I have to do overlap, so really I have saved myself a lot of time.

I actually wonder if anyone else in the thread knows what Political Obligation actually is....

I thought it was hilarious, me.

No, stop it!

Lets have Hadron explain it all to us, who really don't know anything.

There are practically libraries written on it, but for a starting point the Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy is good:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/political-obligation/

[DirtDawg]

Magic sarcasm glasses dirty or something, Kiddo?

 

[TheoK]

From a Swedish board;

Redibo asks: "I would also very much like to know what you have against the police ... And you still have not answered why you believe you should have the right, or why you need, to carry weapons in town?" (This idiot hasn't understood anything.)

Litengris answers: "I have something against people who tell me that I cannot do certain things and then do just these things themselves. It is quite funny when a person dressed in dark blue uniform and has a gun and a baton around their waist and a ridiculous hat on the head turns up and says, 'You shall not bear arms. They are dangerous.' I mean, how the hell should I be able to take such a person seriously? Allow me to laugh over that nonsense. Haha :-)

When you use the word 'needs' to justify that people should not be allowed to carry weapons in town, it might mean anything. If you're saying that Axel does not have 'needs' but Johan has, it does not say very much actually. Axel might get a hardon by carrying, or perhaps he feels threatened by neighbours or so. It is impossible for you to say just why.

So don't come and say that Per but not Adolf needs just because you have said it. They may say the same about you."

If you don't think that the "state" is God or something, it's very surprising how people honestly can't understand that the state has its "rights" by brute force and nothing else and that it's as criminal as the mafia or even worse.

[odeon]

OK, John Lennon isn't oppressed by society except when it comes to the FRA law. When will John Lennon feel oppressed for real? When they force him to have a surveillance camera in his own home, so the government can watch him 24/7? When they put a VeriChip inplant into his skin? When they put a chip into his brain?

When that happens, it will be far too late for any resistance. But the foundation was laid by accepting gun "control".

John Lennon is dead. You do know that, don't you?

Shot and killed by a handgun in the hands of a psycho, BTW ...

Ironic, isn't it?