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« on: March 03, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
Does anybody think it will help? I think throwing money in the proportions that they are are useless.  None of it will help things have to get better on there own.   All this money going to people who just pissed away what they had.   We need new companies not the shitty one's that already proven they are idiots.  AIG want 30 billion MORE wtf I can't even conceive of that much money and they will only want more.  It will be never ending an who is going to pay for it us no matter and they will always want more.  When does it end.  All this spending is just going to make things worse we need new ideas and companies run in not the same old way
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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 10:50:59 PM »
...  AIG want 30 billion MORE wtf I can't even conceive of that much money and they will only want more. 

...

Here's an interesting email that has been circulating recently:




How many zeros in a billion?
 

This is too true to be funny.
The next time you hear a politician use the
Word 'billion' in such a casual manner, think about
whether or not you want the 'politicians' spending
YOUR tax money, today.

A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
but one advertising agency did a good job of
putting that figure into some perspective in
one of it's releases.

A.
A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B.
A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

C.
A billion hours ago our ancestors were
living in the Stone Age.

D.
A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

E.
A billion dollars ago was only
8 hours and 20 minutes,
at the rate our government
is spending it.


While this thought is still fresh in our brain...
let's take a look at New Orleans .
It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division.

Louisiana Senator,
Mary Landrieu (D)
is presently asking Congress for
250 BILLION DOLLARS
to rebuild New Orleans .. Interesting number...
what does it mean?

A.
Well.... if you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans   
(every man, woman, and child)
you each get $516,528.

B.
Or... if you have one of the 188,251 homes in
New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787..

C.
Or... if you are a family of four...
your family gets $2,066,012.

Washington , D. C.

HELLO!
Are all your calculators broken??

Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax (Fed)
Federal Unemployment Tax (FU TA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Pe rmit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicl e Tax
School Tax   
State Income Tax   
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax   
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Tax
Vehicle License Registration T ax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
(And to think, we left British Rule to avoid so many taxes)

STILL THINK THIS IS MEANT TO BE FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago...
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt...
We had the largest middle class in the world...
and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened?
Can you spell 'politicians!'



What the hell happened?????






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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 11:31:04 PM »
No, I don't think that it will work at all.  Continuing to live beyond our means as a nation is as insane as it would be for a family.

I think that they are idiots to be spending our money this way and that everyone who voted for this insane "stimulus" package should all be fired. 

Unfortunately, it will be too late by then for it to really do us any good.


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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 12:37:13 AM »
I'm afraid the situation is too vast and growing too fast for any stimulus or bailout to work. Not to mention all these packages are not backed by real money, it's all actually just more debt being used as money because the treasury is in the red already. They have this idea that by adding debt into the right investment projects, they might gain a profitable return over time to pay the debts off. While this would work if the debt wasn't accelerating in growth, I'm afraid this debt situation is simply accelerating out of control for that to work, and any return will not be sufficient to negate or overweigh it. If anything this will worsen the situation by accumulating more national debt with a ever growing demand for more bailouts with higher sums every time. This will eventually lead to an collapse of the U.S economy, followed by the global economy long term (hell the global economy could collapse or enter depression territory within a year according to current trends).
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Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 12:59:31 AM »
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What happened?
Two World Wars and a Cold War.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 09:38:52 AM »
It'll work. Now give me my monies.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 01:07:11 PM »
It can't work. It's the same as throwing the money away.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 03:26:30 PM »
It can't work. It's the same as throwing the money away.

I wonder if anyone has yet to compare the whisking away of a few million dollars as compared to the burning of a few million dollars.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2009, 07:42:25 AM »
It can't work. It's the same as throwing the money away.

As long as they are throwing it my way.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 01:41:36 PM »
it will help the rich continue to get richer
Misunderstood.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2009, 05:40:35 PM »
Yes, probably. But even in a best-case scenario, it will only delay the inevitable.
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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 08:27:27 PM »
It can't work. It's the same as throwing the money away.
It worked fine in Japan many years ago.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 01:17:46 AM »
That was very different. The rest of the world was not in recession.
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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 06:31:49 AM »
That was very different. The rest of the western world was not in recession.
Slightly different. If they can get lending working again most of the problems will eventually go away tbh. Public's works projects are a very good way of improving the infrastructure whilst stopping mass unemployment.

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Re: Stimulus
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 09:45:07 AM »
That was very different. The rest of the western world was not in recession.
Slightly different. If they can get lending working again most of the problems will eventually go away tbh. Public's works projects are a very good way of improving the infrastructure whilst stopping mass unemployment.

Bailing out big banks and automakers is slightly different than big public works projects I know there are some but most of the money isn't going to them
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