blast from the past - new info on a bad teacher I hate, decades later

[Callaway]

...Anyway, somehow the topic of that old hellhole came up during my recent visit.  Turns out that teacher I had back then, who I hate even to this day, was some loser that none of the public schools would hire.  So, the principal of this private school decided to be nice and hire him.  Apparently he was putting this loser's best interests over those of his students.  For those of you who don't remember my bad-teacher rant, this is the asshole who gave me a math phobia.  Initially I liked math.  I even had my own scientific calculator at age seven.  I was aware of negative numbers before I was supposed to "learn" about them, and that annoyed this teacher.  So, the first time I had a bad day with the math, that was Mr. Loser's opportunity to make sure it was a REALLY bad day, and make me hate math.  The asshole enjoyed humiliating students in front of each other...

I wonder what Mr. Loser, the teacher who should not be teaching anyone anything, is doing now.  Hopefully not teaching anymore.

Not sure. If anything goes badly wrong in my life then I can become Mr Loser - and get away with it. No one wants to teach my subject in schools.

What subject?

I think that there's nothing wrong with being a teacher, just with using the position to abuse children.

If you become a teacher, then you won't humiliate students in front of each other like garmonbozia's teacher did or physically abuse students like my daughter's special education teacher did, so you won't become a Mr. Loser.

[TheoK]

A teacher is a loser by default, at least below university. 

[Christopher McCandless]

...Anyway, somehow the topic of that old hellhole came up during my recent visit.  Turns out that teacher I had back then, who I hate even to this day, was some loser that none of the public schools would hire.  So, the principal of this private school decided to be nice and hire him.  Apparently he was putting this loser's best interests over those of his students.  For those of you who don't remember my bad-teacher rant, this is the asshole who gave me a math phobia.  Initially I liked math.  I even had my own scientific calculator at age seven.  I was aware of negative numbers before I was supposed to "learn" about them, and that annoyed this teacher.  So, the first time I had a bad day with the math, that was Mr. Loser's opportunity to make sure it was a REALLY bad day, and make me hate math.  The asshole enjoyed humiliating students in front of each other...

I wonder what Mr. Loser, the teacher who should not be teaching anyone anything, is doing now.  Hopefully not teaching anymore.

Not sure. If anything goes badly wrong in my life then I can become Mr Loser - and get away with it. No one wants to teach my subject in schools.

What subject?

I think that there's nothing wrong with being a teacher, just with using the position to abuse children.

If you become a teacher, then you won't humiliate students in front of each other like garmonbozia's teacher did or physically abuse students like my daughter's special education teacher did, so you won't become a Mr. Loser.

Same subject as Mr. Loser - Maths. Though I might get to teach A-level or GCSE politics too.

Well I would not abuse children (unless someone has the sense to bring back the cane - then I might give the dimmer ones a whack so they actually learn their timestables), but I would focus on making sure the brighter kids in my class get through as opposed the dimmer ones.

[Phlexor]

That teacher should not have been teaching anyone.

My daughter had a bad teacher when she was in second grade, too.  She put soap in her mouth and she put her hands around my daughter's neck and squeezed until my daughter couldn't breathe.

W.T.F.?!?!?! 

It gets worse.  This woman is still a teacher at the same school where she abused my daughter.  It was my daughter's word against the word of a special education teacher, and of course she denied doing any of it.  My daughter told me at school that "Mrs. C put her hands on my neck," and she had marks on her neck.  When we got home I had her show me with a rag doll how it happened and she demonstrated.  I went to school with her for the rest of the year after it happened and then we were able to get my daughter away from that school after the school year ended.

Messed up. When I was in high school a teacher dragged me by the back of my shirt collar and tie to the point where I couldn't breath, just because I walked away from him when he called after me after an incident between me and some other student. Fucking arsehole.

When it comes to the teachers word against and a young autistic student, they fail to realise that autistic children don't have the same creativity as other children when it comes to making up stories about what the teacher may or may not have done. We always pointed that out when it came to situations like that with our kids.

[Phlexor]

A teacher is a loser by default, at least below university. 

I've heard that a lot of teachers only ended up in that position because they failed everything else at university and teaching has the lowest requirements. Therefore they hate themselves and they hate their job and take it out on the kids.

[Callaway]

That teacher should not have been teaching anyone.

My daughter had a bad teacher when she was in second grade, too.  She put soap in her mouth and she put her hands around my daughter's neck and squeezed until my daughter couldn't breathe.

W.T.F.?!?!?! 

It gets worse.  This woman is still a teacher at the same school where she abused my daughter.  It was my daughter's word against the word of a special education teacher, and of course she denied doing any of it.  My daughter told me at school that "Mrs. C put her hands on my neck," and she had marks on her neck.  When we got home I had her show me with a rag doll how it happened and she demonstrated.  I went to school with her for the rest of the year after it happened and then we were able to get my daughter away from that school after the school year ended.

Messed up. When I was in high school a teacher dragged me by the back of my shirt collar and tie to the point where I couldn't breath, just because I walked away from him when he called after me after an incident between me and some other student. Fucking arsehole.

When it comes to the teachers word against and a young autistic student, they fail to realise that autistic children don't have the same creativity as other children when it comes to making up stories about what the teacher may or may not have done. We always pointed that out when it came to situations like that with our kids.

I know.  We pointed out that our daughter did not lie, but going to court would have been very difficult for her and the teacher almost definitely would still have gotten away with it.  Sometimes I wonder whether we did the right thing not to pursue that course of action, but I think that is a big part of the reason my daughter is attending an expensive private school for autistic children rather than the public school with more ignorant people who are incapable of handling her.  That special education teacher knew next to nothing about autistic children and her experience was from the Juvenile Justice system.  She did pursue a little training after we got our daughter away from her, so I hope she did not abuse any more autistic children.  I did warn the principal and other parents of autistic children who dealt with her to keep a close watch on her.

[Phlexor]

That teacher should not have been teaching anyone.

My daughter had a bad teacher when she was in second grade, too.  She put soap in her mouth and she put her hands around my daughter's neck and squeezed until my daughter couldn't breathe.

W.T.F.?!?!?! 

It gets worse.  This woman is still a teacher at the same school where she abused my daughter.  It was my daughter's word against the word of a special education teacher, and of course she denied doing any of it.  My daughter told me at school that "Mrs. C put her hands on my neck," and she had marks on her neck.  When we got home I had her show me with a rag doll how it happened and she demonstrated.  I went to school with her for the rest of the year after it happened and then we were able to get my daughter away from that school after the school year ended.

Messed up. When I was in high school a teacher dragged me by the back of my shirt collar and tie to the point where I couldn't breath, just because I walked away from him when he called after me after an incident between me and some other student. Fucking arsehole.

When it comes to the teachers word against and a young autistic student, they fail to realise that autistic children don't have the same creativity as other children when it comes to making up stories about what the teacher may or may not have done. We always pointed that out when it came to situations like that with our kids.

I know.  We pointed out that our daughter did not lie, but going to court would have been very difficult for her and the teacher almost definitely would still have gotten away with it.  Sometimes I wonder whether we did the right thing not to pursue that course of action, but I think that is a big part of the reason my daughter is attending an expensive private school for autistic children rather than the public school with more ignorant people who are incapable of handling her.  That special education teacher knew next to nothing about autistic children and her experience was from the Juvenile Justice system.  She did pursue a little training after we got our daughter away from her, so I hope she did not abuse any more autistic children.  I did warn the principal and other parents of autistic children who dealt with her to keep a close watch on her.

Yeah, I think at the end of the day you really have to pick your battles and focus on the one important thing, what is right for your child. And that includes making sure their parent(s) are too stressed out fighting long and painful battles that might end up going nowhere. I would be nice to be able to protect everyone elses kids from these monsters, but never at the expense of your own.

[TheoK]

A teacher is a loser by default, at least below university. 

I've heard that a lot of teachers only ended up in that position because they failed everything else at university and teaching has the lowest requirements. Therefore they hate themselves and they hate their job and take it out on the kids.

Sadly, I think that theory is quite correct.

[Christopher McCandless]

A teacher is a loser by default, at least below university. 

I've heard that a lot of teachers only ended up in that position because they failed everything else at university and teaching has the lowest requirements. Therefore they hate themselves and they hate their job and take it out on the kids.

Sadly, I think that theory is quite correct.

Its correct in some cases - though a few of my old teachers had very good degrees. I am sure that I am going to graduate with a good degree - teaching I would be doing because its easy. Especially to be a maths teacher.

[Lucifer]

i had a blast from the past the other day.  i met an old student of mine (she was 10-11 when i taught her), who had severe behavioural problems.  she recognised me, and was really enthusiastic about talking to me, which my ex-students always seem to be.

she'd been kicked out of home and was living rough, or sleeping on the floor of various friends.  (she's 18 now).  anyway, i chatted to her for a bit, and bought her breakfast as she had no money.

it unsettled me a little, though - i wondered if i was being taken for a ride.  sometimes, i can be too trusting.  typical aspie, i s'pose.   

[Pyraxis]

I don't see that buying breakfast could do much harm, even if she was just in it for the free food.

[Lucifer]

true.

thanks, pyraxis.

[Natalia Evans]

That teacher should not have been teaching anyone.

My daughter had a bad teacher when she was in second grade, too.  She put soap in her mouth and she put her hands around my daughter's neck and squeezed until my daughter couldn't breathe.

W.T.F.?!?!?! 

It gets worse.  This woman is still a teacher at the same school where she abused my daughter.  It was my daughter's word against the word of a special education teacher, and of course she denied doing any of it.  My daughter told me at school that "Mrs. C put her hands on my neck," and she had marks on her neck.  When we got home I had her show me with a rag doll how it happened and she demonstrated.  I went to school with her for the rest of the year after it happened and then we were able to get my daughter away from that school after the school year ended.

Messed up. When I was in high school a teacher dragged me by the back of my shirt collar and tie to the point where I couldn't breath, just because I walked away from him when he called after me after an incident between me and some other student. Fucking arsehole.

When it comes to the teachers word against and a young autistic student, they fail to realise that autistic children don't have the same creativity as other children when it comes to making up stories about what the teacher may or may not have done. We always pointed that out when it came to situations like that with our kids.

I know.  We pointed out that our daughter did not lie, but going to court would have been very difficult for her and the teacher almost definitely would still have gotten away with it.  Sometimes I wonder whether we did the right thing not to pursue that course of action, but I think that is a big part of the reason my daughter is attending an expensive private school for autistic children rather than the public school with more ignorant people who are incapable of handling her.  That special education teacher knew next to nothing about autistic children and her experience was from the Juvenile Justice system.  She did pursue a little training after we got our daughter away from her, so I hope she did not abuse any more autistic children.  I did warn the principal and other parents of autistic children who dealt with her to keep a close watch on her.

I wonder how you are affording it? Financial aid, scholarship, or your family helps pay for it?

[Callaway]

I wonder how you are affording it? Financial aid, scholarship, or your family helps pay for it?

We could not have afforded it.  The school district is paying the whole bill for the school including transportation from our home to the school and back because it's in her IEP that this school is what she needs.

[Parts]

A teacher is a loser by default, at least below university. 

I've heard that a lot of teachers only ended up in that position because they failed everything else at university and teaching has the lowest requirements. Therefore they hate themselves and they hate their job and take it out on the kids.

Sadly, I think that theory is quite correct.

Not all some like working with kids.  Also in CT you have to have a B or better average and get a Masters degree within 5 years of  starting and then there is the extra  tests.  Not to say there are some bitter nasty stupid one who should quit out there