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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2008, 03:51:03 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2008, 03:53:24 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2008, 03:56:51 PM »
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.
Your maths is shockingly bad - percentages add up to 100

As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

:laugh: I *knew* I would do something like that. I really need to read what I wrote before hitting "Send".
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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2008, 03:58:44 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)

Not at all. In wars the soldiers often pick up guns from dead soldiers on the enemy side.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2008, 03:59:03 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2008, 04:00:56 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #141 on: December 19, 2008, 04:02:48 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.

so, basically, you'll change your tune about everything when it suits you.

funnily enough, that's been clear for a long time, and why i don't hold much credance for any of your opinions.

a real shame, cos you do have a brain.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #142 on: December 19, 2008, 04:05:46 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #143 on: December 19, 2008, 04:06:58 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #144 on: December 19, 2008, 04:10:09 PM »
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.

so, basically, you'll change your tune about everything when it suits you.

funnily enough, that's been clear for a long time, and why i don't hold much credance for any of your opinions.

a real shame, cos you do have a brain.
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #145 on: December 19, 2008, 04:13:40 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #146 on: December 19, 2008, 04:15:30 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #147 on: December 19, 2008, 04:16:47 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #148 on: December 19, 2008, 04:17:48 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

He wasn't. He was a very sick puppy, but not a spazz.
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Re: antipsychotics
« Reply #149 on: December 19, 2008, 04:20:16 PM »
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
You should probably take a closer look at modern politics, there are some blatently autistic people either in the positions or more often as the power behind such a throne. Bear in mind I would not need to hold the position to subvert it - there are other ways of influencing people.