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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 04:54:29 PM »
Quote from: nobodyshere on March 05, 2009, 09:22:42 AM
You might be a liberal if.....

You think that consenting adults can engage freely in every activity except capitalism.
If you think the answer to ANY crime, infraction, or injustice is counseling.
If you use the words "right wing extremist" at least four times in any given day.
You live in constant fear that someone, somewhere, is making a profit.

Only the third is true of me, LOL, but I tend to call people Nazis and rednecks more often.

I used to consider myself a liberal, but the more my life began to suck, the more I'm becoming liberal-in-name-only. I mean, thinking logically here, if my mum kicks me out of the house, which is likely to happen at some point, I might end up living on the streets having to do some pretty unliberal stuff. Ergo, I might thank freer gun laws at some point, no matter how long I believed that guns should be banned altogether. So I guess it's true that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.

Also, the apocalypse could well by nigh (I don't mean the rock. The government KNOWS something is coming, and they ain't letting on), and in such a scenario, I want to be armed against whatever will be threatening the survivors. (I've seen too many movies, LOL.)

In what way do you think that the philosophy of liberalism conflicts with the private ownership of firearms?  What would this 'unliberal stuff' be that you'd do while living on the streets, and what would make it 'unliberal'?
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 04:59:13 PM »
Real liberalism would of course be pro firearms. Individual freedom is impossible without any chance of physical defense against presumtive oppressors (i.e. the police and the military).
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2009, 05:23:51 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 05, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
Real liberalism would of course be pro firearms. Individual freedom is impossible without any chance of physical defense against presumtive oppressors (i.e. the police and the military).

One word: bullshit.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2009, 05:34:34 PM »
Two words: passive-aggressive.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2009, 06:34:05 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 05, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
Real liberalism would of course be pro firearms. Individual freedom is impossible without any chance of physical defense against presumtive oppressors (i.e. the police and the military).

I think your thinking libertarianism
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2009, 06:37:04 PM »
Quote from: parts on March 05, 2009, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: TheoK on March 05, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
Real liberalism would of course be pro firearms. Individual freedom is impossible without any chance of physical defense against presumtive oppressors (i.e. the police and the military).

I think your thinking libertarianism

Yes, in modern terms, since "liberal" is a term that has been perverted by cowards and hypocrites.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2009, 04:32:00 AM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 05, 2009, 05:34:34 PM
Two words: passive-aggressive.

One and a half, at most, since you're using a hyphen. Semantically speaking, "passive-aggressive" should be regarded as one word.

Your attempts at perverting the meaning of the word "liberal" is a separate discussion, however, and one that I have no interest in pursuing since your basic premise includes the use of force to "be free".
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2009, 05:11:14 AM »
The only reason that you need force to be free is that there are oppressors, "governments", "states", etc, that have decided to rule over you without your consent. I'd never dream of using force if it weren't for the oppression. I'm not a violent nature except when someone treds on my rights, which these cowards do all the time. They have no original mandate, and thus their power is nothing but criminal. There isn't and never was such a thing as a "social contract", just oppression, nowadays camouflaged as "democracy". But the fraud is as great as when the kings claimed being God's deputies on Earth. They have no original mandate to rule over the people.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2009, 01:27:07 PM »
People YOU see as oppressors.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2009, 03:31:11 PM »
Oh, it isn't oppression to force your will on people without their consent.  ::)
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2009, 04:28:33 PM »
Hypocrite. Why is it OK when you do it, then?
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2009, 04:39:42 PM »
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2009, 04:44:33 PM »
i love lit. he's a fascist nazi and against some of my beliefs, but i find him endearing. admit, odeon. you like him too.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2009, 04:49:32 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 06, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
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Details of which should probably be kept out of a public message board.
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Re: What is a liberal?
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2009, 04:51:08 PM »
Quote from: SovaNu on March 06, 2009, 04:44:33 PM
i love lit. he's a fascist nazi and against some of my beliefs, but i find him endearing. admit, odeon. you like him too.

He's a bigoted prick with delusions of adequacy. What's there not to like?
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