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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2008, 08:47:46 PM »
The rich do it over here because they are snobs - nothing much else. When things go badly wrong they always run with their tails between their legs into the nations health service. Preferably I would like to leave them outside to rot as an example....

you feel this way until you turn 40 and start earning a little coin.
Not at all - I wont be wasting my money on private health insurance, its pointless.

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2008, 05:11:40 PM »
The rich do it over here because they are snobs - nothing much else. When things go badly wrong they always run with their tails between their legs into the nations health service. Preferably I would like to leave them outside to rot as an example....

you feel this way until you turn 40 and start earning a little coin.
Not at all - I wont be wasting my money on private health insurance, its pointless.


So you trust you government to take care of you?  Your nuts I don't trust mine to do much of anything right or in a timely fashion
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2008, 05:49:27 PM »
The rich do it over here because they are snobs - nothing much else. When things go badly wrong they always run with their tails between their legs into the nations health service. Preferably I would like to leave them outside to rot as an example....

you feel this way until you turn 40 and start earning a little coin.
Not at all - I wont be wasting my money on private health insurance, its pointless.


So you trust you government to take care of you?  Your nuts I don't trust mine to do much of anything right or in a timely fashion
You are ultimately protected by government anyway - what if your HMO, if you got ill, defaulted on paying for your healthcare. You would have to trust the government to put it right.

So really you are no better protected than myself, despite paying through the nose for it.

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2008, 05:52:31 PM »
I only trust my government to fuck it up.  How long do you wait for an appointment?
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2008, 05:54:55 PM »
No HMO for me, thank you! In this world, you get what you pay for.

I pay for insurance and I don't have to wait with a bunch of random, infected fucks for treatment. I get to make an appointment.
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2008, 05:59:11 PM »
We have good health care in so called primary healt care centers, i.e., where you go for quick treatment of minor damages or diseases. I can come the same day if I'm lucky, and that only costs about US$15 to see a doctor and US$10 to see a nurse. It's worse with major surgery and such, but it worked very good before about 1990.

Though I don't trust my government one whit. Public health care isn't governmental in Sweden, though; the county boards administrate it.
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2008, 10:59:44 PM »
I only trust my government to fuck it up.  How long do you wait for an appointment?
With open surgery it can be instant. Most surgeries I can get seen same day - if its an emergency then immediately. The GP can come and do a home visit too.

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2008, 11:01:29 PM »
No HMO for me, thank you! In this world, you get what you pay for.

I pay for insurance and I don't have to wait with a bunch of random, infected fucks for treatment. I get to make an appointment.
In a decent nation, one which actually respects all its citizens, there are no problems with not paying for healthcare. National Insurance works just fine for me and 99% of Brits :)

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2008, 11:16:21 PM »
When I was in Scotland, I waited about a month for an appointment, then got expensive allergy meds for dirt cheap, but I basically ended up prescribing them to myself. The doctor in my consultation didn't know enough to distinguish one eczema med from another in the dictionary of prescriptions she was referencing on the spot, so I read over her shoulder and told her what to sign for.

In the USA, I went to a private allergy specialist armed with extensive test results from five years ago, only to spend half the appointment being told by the doctor that his "competition", another allergy specialist in a completely different state, was a quack, he had no evidence I was allergic to gluten, and I should immediately start eating wheat products again. I walked out with different pills than the ones that had worked for me in the past, because a different drug company had been courting this doctor and he insisted I try the new pills first "to see if they work", even though both types of pills would be equally available from pharmacies.

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2008, 02:54:55 AM »
I had eye surgery in 1991; that I had to pay for myself, because I was just short-sighted, so that was considered "cosmetical". Though if anyone wishes to change gender, the public health care pays for it. Sweden in a nutshell.  ::)

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2008, 03:13:04 AM »
No HMO for me, thank you! In this world, you get what you pay for.

I pay for insurance and I don't have to wait with a bunch of random, infected fucks for treatment. I get to make an appointment.
In a decent nation, one which actually respects all its citizens, there are no problems with not paying for healthcare. National Insurance works just fine for me and 99% of Brits :)

I wouldn't call a nation decent that bans one hand guns for perfectly law-abiding citizens, but that's another story.

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2008, 06:15:14 AM »
I had eye surgery in 1991; that I had to pay for myself, because I was just short-sighted, so that was considered "cosmetical". Though if anyone wishes to change gender, the public health care pays for it. Sweden in a nutshell.  ::)

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They'll cut off your dick for free but not fix your eyes :lol:
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2008, 06:18:44 AM »
I had eye surgery in 1991; that I had to pay for myself, because I was just short-sighted, so that was considered "cosmetical". Though if anyone wishes to change gender, the public health care pays for it. Sweden in a nutshell.  ::)

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They'll cut off your dick for free but not fix your eyes :lol:

Yes. Sweden is the feast of weirdness. You need a license for an airgun with a muzzle velocity over 200 meters/s and/or an impact over 10 J/cm2, but a cannon is free to buy. It's also legal to look on child pornography in Sweden, as long as you don't save it on your computer, and zoophilia is legal as long as you don't hurt the animal...

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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2008, 01:39:06 PM »
I had eye surgery in 1991; that I had to pay for myself, because I was just short-sighted, so that was considered "cosmetical". Though if anyone wishes to change gender, the public health care pays for it. Sweden in a nutshell.  ::)

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They'll cut off your dick for free but not fix your eyes :lol:

Yes. Sweden is the feast of weirdness. You need a license for an airgun with a muzzle velocity over 200 meters/s and/or an impact over 10 J/cm2, but a cannon is free to buy. It's also legal to look on child pornography in Sweden, as long as you don't save it on your computer, and zoophilia is legal as long as you don't hurt the animal...

What's weird about those laws?  Cannons are heavy, unwieldy and expensive items, whereas any bored kid could get an airgun and start shooting squirrels, cats, windows and putting people's eyes out.  Looking at CP while being unable to save CP makes it easy to prosecute the producers of CP, who will necessarily possess it in order to distribute it, while protecting those who view it, who are too numerous to make it feasible or desirable to criminalise them all, and protecting those who view it accidentally.  Zoophilia doesn't cause harm any more than regular sex with people does; forcing a person or animal is harmful, but plenty of people and plenty of animals are horny and willing.
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Re: Safe Haven Law from Nebraska.
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2008, 01:48:07 PM »
You can buy a small cannon relatively cheap.

Though airguns with a muzzle velocity of 199 meters/s will also easily hurt an animal and put out an eye.

The gender change thing is much weirder. About 10% of the gender benders regret having surgery afterwards, though I've never heard that anyone regretted a successful eye surgery.