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Quote from: DirtDawg on November 06, 2008, 05:09:38 PMIs he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.You think McCain would have been at enough risk of assassination that Palin's existence would have been an effective deterrent?
Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
the reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.
Quote from: Pyraxis on November 06, 2008, 04:53:30 PMQuote from: DirtDawg on November 06, 2008, 04:46:51 PMI plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"I tend to make the opposite mistake and choke down on impulsive creativity until it's lost its explosive spark. Didn't stop me from lying awake late last night grinning though, completely surprised to suddenly feel hopeful about this country. At the moment I don't care if Obama turns out to be a letdown, it's still good to see a bit of heroics about our leadership.I don't know enough about politics to be able to make any remotely accurate speculations at this point about what the future will bring.The politics in a nutshell:Is he truly as centrist as he appears or have we elected a leftwing socialist like his late-to-the-table running mate. I still say that the most compelling reason for each candidate's choice of running mate was to ensure they would NOT be assassinated.
Quote from: DirtDawg on November 06, 2008, 04:46:51 PMI plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"I tend to make the opposite mistake and choke down on impulsive creativity until it's lost its explosive spark. Didn't stop me from lying awake late last night grinning though, completely surprised to suddenly feel hopeful about this country. At the moment I don't care if Obama turns out to be a letdown, it's still good to see a bit of heroics about our leadership.I don't know enough about politics to be able to make any remotely accurate speculations at this point about what the future will bring.
I plan to, but have you ever bought the latest and greatest most cool whatever toy/tool/enhancement and within days come down with a severe case of "buyer's remorse?"
Quote from: Pyraxis on November 06, 2008, 05:16:08 PMYou think McCain would have been at enough risk of assassination that Palin's existence would have been an effective deterrent?Don't you? (Well, OK, it was meant to be humorous)
You think McCain would have been at enough risk of assassination that Palin's existence would have been an effective deterrent?
How well do you know the ramblings of Palen? She seems like a toxic substance to me, best avoided at all costs.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.
Quote from: McArmstrong on November 06, 2008, 05:31:40 PMthe reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.Hope you're right, my friend!!
Quote from: odeon on November 06, 2008, 02:44:54 PMQuote from: DirtDawg on November 06, 2008, 02:40:44 PMQuote from: duncvis on November 06, 2008, 02:32:46 PMsocial democracy ftw Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.I was under the impression that Obama will pick a lot of experienced people to his administration. I am always very suspicious of the trendy, with-it, chic, hip fads, like electing a young, inexperienced black-ish president and most particularly when the objet la mode happens to have the gift of charismatic, alluring dazzle and enchantment, loaded with the magic of pizzaz, splashing the hustle of righteousness, sublime rectification, corrective betterment and discipline to the point of glamorous Juju to everyone in earshot.:hides mojo:It all seems too good to be true.I believe we're beguiled by a "wixard" of phylacterous allure.
Quote from: DirtDawg on November 06, 2008, 02:40:44 PMQuote from: duncvis on November 06, 2008, 02:32:46 PMsocial democracy ftw Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.I was under the impression that Obama will pick a lot of experienced people to his administration.
Quote from: duncvis on November 06, 2008, 02:32:46 PMsocial democracy ftw Depends on who defines it. Either one of us could do it, but we have little to gain or lose.Everyone in power makes it work in their own favor, unfortunately. Not much different from where we are, now, but we have a mostly untried chemistry to deal with from this day and on.
social democracy ftw
Quote from: McArmstrong on November 06, 2008, 05:31:40 PMthe reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.
Quote from: McArmstrong on November 06, 2008, 05:31:40 PMthe reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.Any exceedingly great president can be honored on their birthday. The more influential of a world leader you are, the more pages you have written about you in the history books. Dubya will have a good amount written about his presidency, but it will be mostly negative. I don't see Obama going on Mr. Rushmore though, no matter how great he is. The man was backed by some powerful lobbyists. Franklin Raines was the former CEO of Fannie Mae (Obama financial advisor) and helped Obama get a lot of his funding. Any president would want to be great due to self interest, they all get remembered in some way. He will be historic for being the first minority president, but his legacy will be how he does his job. He can be motivated to be great all he wants, hopefully he has the right people around him and takes the right advice.
Quote from: Alex179 on November 06, 2008, 07:04:21 PMQuote from: McArmstrong on November 06, 2008, 05:31:40 PMthe reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.Any exceedingly great president can be honored on their birthday. The more influential of a world leader you are, the more pages you have written about you in the history books. Dubya will have a good amount written about his presidency, but it will be mostly negative. I don't see Obama going on Mr. Rushmore though, no matter how great he is. The man was backed by some powerful lobbyists. Franklin Raines was the former CEO of Fannie Mae (Obama financial advisor) and helped Obama get a lot of his funding. Any president would want to be great due to self interest, they all get remembered in some way. He will be historic for being the first minority president, but his legacy will be how he does his job. He can be motivated to be great all he wants, hopefully he has the right people around him and takes the right advice.it is difficult to be an exceedingly great president. obama is in a unique position. it is his to lose...a national holiday in his honour.
Sarcasm?*snort*
Quote from: AspieAtheistAlliance on November 06, 2008, 06:28:51 PMQuote from: McArmstrong on November 06, 2008, 05:31:40 PMthe reason that obama will be a great president is due to human nature....self interest.obama has the chance to have history honour his birth as a national holiday. is there a greater honour? he has every motivation to try his best to right this ship called the US. there is very little motivation to sell out to the corporqations like many presidents do.If only that was the case. Obama outspent McCain by 3:1. When he gets into office, he'll have to pay that money back to the people who gave it to him. Voters rarely get what they voted for. Campaign contributors ALWAYS get what they paid for.Obama is funded a lot more by ordinary people than anyone else has ever been. Also it might be worth noting, but Biden is probably the poorest senator in the senate.
