Israel...

[Beowulf]

maybe what the world needs is the preservative maternal instincts of women.
perhaps women should start to be the world leaders...

like thatcher, golda meir and indira ghandi, you mean?

women are just as capable of being thugs as men - i cite the three examples above.  the nurturing female is as much of a stereotype as the dumb blonde. 

not having a go at you, mcj, by the way - just pointing it out.

Yes, of course you can always find exceptions to any stereotype. So what? It doesn't necessarily make all generalisations invalid.

[hiroshima]

The women you mention, lucifer, had primarily male administrations and advisors.  Maybe things would have been different if everyone in an administrative position were female...

I know women can be dark and evil too, yet war seems to be primarily, though not exclusively, the progeny of men.  Women DO participate, I know that, but overwhelmingly it seems to be a male phenomena...

[Lucifer]

i entirely agree, shima.  and with your point, beowulf.

but i still think it's dangerous to accept such sweeping generalisations (i.e. stereotypes) as The Truth - after all, where would that leave people with AS?

[orbit]

It is an interesting question though - are there more thug men in positions of authority because men are more likely to be thugs, or because men are more likely to be in positions of authority.

I do think women are more nuturing than men by nature, but being a 'thug' is an easily learned and nuture trumping behavior.

"The Devil Wears Prada" anyone??

Orbit

[McGiver]

here is the way that i see it playing out: (generalization alert)

with women we would have fewer wars and less people starving to death.  the way that the world leaders would solve disputes would be with backstabbing.  yet, war would not break out as a result.  the person having been backstabbed will never forget, and the cycle of one upsmanship would begin. 
revenge is a dish best served cold.  the way of the woman.  women have more patience than men, when it comes to settling and old grudge.

and since women would be too busy running things (and traeting men fairer than men treated them) we could possibly solve our continued problem of overpopulation.l  since the women couldn't be arsed, due to time constraints, and  a drain on their valuable time.

[Leto729]

Some questions RobertN: Why are You so hard on Israel? Why do You scapegoat them so much? Why do You take the Arabs and Palestinians side so much more?

[Eamonn]

The Americans have taken over where the British left off. As rapists of the worlds resources and leaving political instability in their wake. They are one-sided on the Israeli-Palestine situation as well. Yes women are more nurturing than men in general, that's why there tends to be less of them involved in world politics and wars and more of them involved in raising kids and working as nurses, primary school teachers etc. Maybe we should concentrate on world socialism where chances and opportunities are as equal as possible and there are no such things as wars over land because we are all part of one world. "Yes, you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one....."

[McGiver]

and america pollutes, both the mind and lungs

[Beowulf]

Maybe we should concentrate on world socialism where chances and opportunities are as equal as possible and there are no such things as wars over land because we are all part of one world. "Yes, you may say im a dreamer, but im not the only one....."

Well, that's what Bush and Blair are trying to achieve what with Blair selling out Britain's independence to the EU, Bush trying to create an open borders North American superstate, and both of them trying to bring "democracy" to a part of the world that has never had it and has never seemed to want it.
And a fine fucking mess it all is.

Yes, it might be nice if we could all live as one.
But the world ain't like that.
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. Cultures are different. In some cases irreconcilably different.

[Leto729]

Some questions RobertN: Why are You so hard on Israel? Why do You scapegoat them so much? Why do You take the Arabs and Palestinians side so much more?

So Robert when will You answer My questions?

[Lucifer]

while i'm thinking about it, beowulf...

you forget that thre doesn't seem like a big number, until you think of it as a percentage.  do correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't meir the first female premier in modern times?  of anywhere with any political clout in the world, that is.  so that's roughly 3 out of 3 female leaders who were bullying, vicious thugs.  hmmmm...

as for male advisers - i dunno so much about the other two, but thatcher did everything HER way, whether she was advised to the contrary or not.  she was (and probably still is, for all i know) famous for that.

[McGiver]

i thought thatcher did everything reagan's way.

what ever happened to the fualkland islands?

[Leto729]

i thought thatcher did everything reagan's way.

what ever happened to the fualkland islands?

They are still apart of Great Britain.

[McGiver]

i think argentina should have them.

[duncvis]

Maybe the sheep should decide.