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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #90 on: October 21, 2008, 02:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Pyraxis on October 20, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Lucifer on October 20, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Do you think society would be a better place if those who believed in physical violence were separated from the ruling class and exiled?

Quote from: Alex179 on October 20, 2008, 03:16:01 PM
It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).

What makes you think violence is not hereditary?
Because people are not violent by family.   I don't see a family full of violent people usually.    My uncle might be an violent person, but the rest of his brothers and sisters are not really violent.   He just had a fucked up life, compared to the rest of his siblings.   I just do not see violence being bred out of any animal totally.    We have to respond to threats, no matter if they come from our species or another.   You can't run away from everything.

I wouldn't want a world full of passive-aggressive types.   The world would be shit, and I do not believe in truly passive people (they always have an underlying aggressiveness in them).  Violence is necessary in some cases to get things done that would not have been accomplished otherwise.   Sometimes people just do not respond to other tactics.
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM »
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2008, 03:25:58 PM »
Quote from: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

do go on - this is completely fascinating.
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2008, 04:25:28 PM »
Quote from: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #94 on: October 21, 2008, 04:30:09 PM »
Quote from: Alex179 on October 21, 2008, 02:36:18 PM
Because people are not violent by family.   I don't see a family full of violent people usually.    My uncle might be an violent person, but the rest of his brothers and sisters are not really violent.   He just had a fucked up life, compared to the rest of his siblings.

Huh - I did a bit of research and it supported that idea, that the cycle of abuse depends on environment more than genes. I suspect that there is a genetic tendency, but the modeling of violence in the environment activates it.

Quote from: Alex179 on October 21, 2008, 02:36:18 PM
I just do not see violence being bred out of any animal totally.    We have to respond to threats, no matter if they come from our species or another.   You can't run away from everything.

I wouldn't want a world full of passive-aggressive types.   The world would be shit, and I do not believe in truly passive people (they always have an underlying aggressiveness in them).  Violence is necessary in some cases to get things done that would not have been accomplished otherwise.   Sometimes people just do not respond to other tactics.

 :agreed:
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #95 on: October 21, 2008, 05:22:15 PM »
Quote from: wandrew on October 21, 2008, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."

Nixon should be added to Mt. Rushmore

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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2008, 05:33:17 PM »
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2008, 08:22:56 PM »

WTF!?!
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2008, 08:30:34 PM »
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WTF!?!

Do you think he'd look better next to Lincoln :zoinks:
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #99 on: October 21, 2008, 09:44:11 PM »
Quote from: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: wandrew on October 21, 2008, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: Johnny on October 21, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
LBJ was the worst followed by carter and than clinton and seeing as how people haven't had enough pain yet obama should top all three of them.

And Nixon, Reagan, George I and George II never did anything wrong. "And Brutus is an honorable man."

Nixon should be added to Mt. Rushmore



But...wasn't he a crook?
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2008, 09:47:39 PM »
Liberty magazine did a comparative study a few years back and found that, on average, Repub and Demo admins are likely to tax US citizens about the same, with the Repubs having a slight edge on taxation. (I think the Cato Institute did the same comparison with the same results.) As far as personal freedoms, I used to think the Dems respected them more, but Clinton convinced me otherwise. That's why I call a pox on both their houses.
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2008, 12:13:56 AM »
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2008, 12:14:22 AM »
Quote from: parts on October 21, 2008, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: DirtDawg on October 21, 2008, 08:22:56 PM

WTF!?!

Do you think he'd look better next to Lincoln :zoinks:

:LMAO:

that is sheer genius!

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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2008, 02:35:30 AM »
Quote from: PMS Elle on October 16, 2008, 08:07:02 AM
I think the guy I'm dating will vote for McCain if he votes- not as a way of supporting McCain but as a way of not taking the election seriously (and because it won't make a difference).  I missed my chance to register to vote; I didn't make the time (though I could have gone out of my way if I was really motivated) because I'm also preeeeetty sure it won't make a difference.  My state votes for me; if Massachusetts votes for McCain I'll eat my hat.

that makes me sick.

of course it won't mke a difference when asshats like your bf don't take these things seriously. write buggs bunny if you have to but why vote for an evil fuckhead who has a big chance to win just for your amusement? disgusting. >:(

to be able to vote is a fucking privelege. who gets elected affects the whole globe but people in america don't even care to vote properly while the rest of the planet sits on their ass unable to help things. you know how that feels? FRUSTRATING.
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Re: NOT a McCainiac
« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2008, 08:26:52 PM »
People are fucking retarded.  I'm strongly debating on who to vote for... I know I'm not voting for McCain though.

Example of stupid people:
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