NOT a McCainiac

[Alex179]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

[punkdrew]

I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.

[Johnny]

I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.

it's reality, too bad you are lost in a fantasy world.

[punkdrew]

If living in a fantasy world means believing that Bush was a fucktard who ruined the economy by ballooning the deficit and started wars for spurious reasons that endangered US citizens worldwide--as well as created a police state apparatus that Joe McCarthy could have only dreamed of that spies on millions of innocent citizens--then I prefer my "fantasy" to your "reality."

Short answer: Worst. President. Ever.

[odeon]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

[Lucifer]

I'm proud to say I voted for George Bush twice and not Gore or Kerry.

The Great President Bush has done a great job handling the mess Clintoon left him and kept people employed in spite of record fuel prices, the DOT.CON crash, hurricanes, terrorist attacks and no way in hell would I vote for the dumocrap poverty pimps who created the mortgage mess.

Obama will make the Jimmy Carter years look like the good old days, the people about 45 an younger have no clue what the good life under dumocraps is like, they are about to find out.

If you're going to write fiction, start your own thread.

 

[Trigger 11]

If living in a fantasy world means believing that Bush was a fucktard who ruined the economy by ballooning the deficit and started wars for spurious reasons that endangered US citizens worldwide--as well as created a police state apparatus that Joe McCarthy could have only dreamed of that spies on millions of innocent citizens--then I prefer my "fantasy" to your "reality."

Short answer: Worst. President. Ever.

 

I thought there could never be a president worse than Reagan, but Bush Jr. takes the cake.

[Alex179]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

[Lucifer]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

[Alex179]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Looked it up on wiki, seems to be interesting fiction.

Do you know the history of women rulers and warfare?    They are not all peaceful, actually most women rulers have been just as likely (if not moreso) to engage in warfare as their male counterparts.   Some quick research can find you that even with the overall small percentage of female rulers, most have engaged in war of some kind.   

[odeon]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

Yes, but that's a different argument altogether.

[Lucifer]

The world always has and always will be a dangerous place to live in.   The war in Iraq would have just been replaced with another war elsewhere at another time.   

How's this an answer to *anything*?

So it's OK to start a war now, because there would have been one anyway, eventually?

It isn't an answer, and war is almost never OK.    War is inevitable, that is reality.

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Looked it up on wiki, seems to be interesting fiction.

Do you know the history of women rulers and warfare? 

yep.

  They are not all peaceful, actually most women rulers have been just as likely (if not moreso) to engage in warfare as their male counterparts.   Some quick research can find you that even with the overall small percentage of female rulers, most have engaged in war of some kind.   

that's not the argument - read the book. 

[Alex179]

It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).

[QuirkyCarla]

I'm not impressed with either candidate, but I'm more afraid of McCain/Palin. I find it really stupid that a lot of people don't want Obama because of his name and think he's a terrorist. O_O I used to get upset when people stereotyped Americans as stupid (since I'm an American, and it felt like a shot against me), but lately I feel they're right. Instead of researching what McCain is for and what Obama is for, people are wanting Obama because he's black (which he's only half) or they don't want him because of his name...or they want to vote for McCain because Palin is hot. It's hard to find an intelligent debate lately.

I also really hate the whole 2 party system of the US. It fucking sucks having to choose the lesser of two evils every election because most people feel it's a waste of vote to vote for one of the other parties.

[Pyraxis]

read "the gate to women's country", by sheri s. tepper.

Do you think society would be a better place if those who believed in physical violence were separated from the ruling class and exiled?

It is women trying to breed the violence out of humanity.   They have their own society and only choose women and men who are not violent to breed.   Violence is not hereditary imo.    It comes from the environment and the animalistic instincts within all humans (flight vs fight).

What makes you think violence is not hereditary?